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Issue installing Aquasuite (Solved). How to quite down the "High Flow" sensor "ticking" noise.

'47 Knucklehead

Junior Member

Issue installing Aquasuite (Solved). How to quite down the "High Flow" sensor "ticking" noise.

Tuesday, December 24th 2013, 4:05am

I've been struggling a LOT with all my Aquacomputer gear. Maybe it is just me, and I'm not "getting it", but I've done about 20 water cooled systems over the years, and while this is my first, something just isn't "clicking" with me apparently, so I'm asking for your help.

I have the AQ D5 pump, AQ D5 pump adapter, the AQ 880mL reservoir, AQ 6XT, AQ thermocoupler, and AQ "High Flow" meter. So basically, I'm "all in" in AQ products and it all should work together.

First up, I can't for the life of me get the Aquasuite software to run on my 3770K system running Windows 7 Pro. I've installed and uninstalled it several time. I was running Windows .NET 4.5.1 when I installed, and that didn't work, so I uninstalled that and downloaded and installed .NET 4.0 and got the same result.

Basically, I don't see an icon on the tray, but when I fire up Task Manager, I see the AquaComputerService.exe running. When I double click aquasuite, nothing appears.

When I plug my AQ6 XT in, it shows up and I can hear Windows tone when I disconnect it.





Ok, so I figured I'd give the software part a break and just hook up my pump and res and check out the water cooling part of the system. I wanted to see how the flow would be if I laid the whole thing over on it's side ... which is how I planned to put it in my newest build. Well, I just can't seem to get much of a flow either putting the whole thing on it's side, or standing vertical. Also, it doesn't seem to matter much if I use the 'In' and 'Out' port on the pump adapter, or just went from the 'Out' on the pump adapter to the top of the reservoir. I'm hoping that it is just something that isn't 'clicking' with me mentally after using all these 'lesser' systems for all these years.

So if you wouldn't mind wasting a couple minutes and watch my video and see if you can give me some pointers as to what I'm doing wrong here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuk80RzsTmM

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "'47 Knucklehead" (Dec 24th 2013, 6:46pm)

'47 Knucklehead

Junior Member

Tuesday, December 24th 2013, 4:35am

Ok, I finally got Aquasuite to fire up.

I had to uninstall and reinstall the Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 SP1 Redistributable Package (x64).

Dunno why it never asked for it on my rig, but when I tried installing Aquasuite on another computer, it had to download that, so on a whim, I uninstalled and reinstalled that package on my system.


Now just to get the water flowing with the hardware.

'47 Knucklehead

Junior Member

Tuesday, December 24th 2013, 6:28am

Well, it appears that it was working, it just took much longer than I was expecting to bleed all the air out and get the flow rate up to a respectable 462 Lph.


http://youtu.be/I-eY_1P_9yE

'47 Knucklehead

Junior Member

Tuesday, December 24th 2013, 6:50pm

After playing with my AQ gear some more, I think I have figured out how to make the "ticking noise" from the AQ "High Flow" sensor bearable.

By decoupling the sensor from the pump unit, and wrapping it in a simple wash cloth, the noise virtually goes away. My build will be using all rigid acrylic tubing, so I will most likely just use 2 small sections of soft tubing going to and from the flow sensor. But the biggest thing will be insulating the entire sensor with some sound absorbing material. Doing that will most likely make it virtually silent when put in a case.

Here is a video showing my test if you are interested. Quite a difference from the previous video as far as noise goes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVyxuWfy96I

EnigmaG

Senior Member

Wednesday, December 25th 2013, 2:49am

It the HF is ok, it do not tick.

cc01

Full Member

Wednesday, December 25th 2013, 6:24am

Quoted from "'47 Knucklehead"

After playing with my AQ gear some more, I think I have figured out how to make the "ticking noise" from the AQ "High Flow" sensor bearable.

By decoupling the sensor from the pump unit, and wrapping it in a simple wash cloth, the noise virtually goes away. My build will be using all rigid acrylic tubing, so I will most likely just use 2 small sections of soft tubing going to and from the flow sensor. But the biggest thing will be insulating the entire sensor with some sound absorbing material. Doing that will most likely make it virtually silent when put in a case.

Here is a video showing my test if you are interested. Quite a difference from the previous video as far as noise goes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVyxuWfy96I


The ticking should eventually go away, however, I found that by not hard mounting the flow meter to a part of the case helped immensely in reducing the noise to almost silent. I have simply suspended the flow meter along a section of tubing and I could barely hear it even up close. A few months later and it was completely silent. Perhaps it is only brand new flow meters that click and they need a little time to 'wear in'?

Jakusonfire

Full Member

Wednesday, December 25th 2013, 6:32am

Lying the flowmeter flat can make them less noisy. Mine has never made any noise though mounted vertically or any which way.
It seems like you are running that loop with almost no restriction and a very high flow rate so the flow meter is working very hard and dealing with a lot of turbulence, especially connected straight to the pump. At normal flow rates it may be a lot quieter.

ozzy

Junior Member

Wednesday, December 25th 2013, 8:06am

all of these flow meters made by aqua have the noise issue or only this one?

'47 Knucklehead

Junior Member

Thursday, December 26th 2013, 6:47pm

Quoted from "ozzy"

all of these flow meters made by aqua have the noise issue or only this one?
Best as I can tell only the "High Flow" sensors have the issue. The MPS 100, 200, and 400 are "pressure sensors" and measure flow rate a different way and thus do not have any spinning parts inside to make noise.

The downside to them is that they have to be calibrated and have to have flow profile defined from them if you are using a tubing diameter other than 6mm, 8mm, or 10mm. So for example, if you are using a 3/8" tubing system like I am, that is CLOSE to 10mm, but in reality is 9.525mm, so if I used the stock 10mm definition, it would be off just a bit.

ozzy

Junior Member

Sunday, December 29th 2013, 11:25pm

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Quoted from "ozzy"

all of these flow meters made by aqua have the noise issue or only this one?
Best as I can tell only the "High Flow" sensors have the issue. The MPS 100, 200, and 400 are "pressure sensors" and measure flow rate a different way and thus do not have any spinning parts inside to make noise.

The downside to them is that they have to be calibrated and have to have flow profile defined from them if you are using a tubing diameter other than 6mm, 8mm, or 10mm. So for example, if you are using a 3/8" tubing system like I am, that is CLOSE to 10mm, but in reality is 9.525mm, so if I used the stock 10mm definition, it would be off just a bit.
how about 13-19mm tubing?Will it be easy to calibrate?

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'47 Knucklehead

Junior Member

Monday, December 30th 2013, 2:10am

Quoted from "ozzy"

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Quoted from "ozzy"

all of these flow meters made by aqua have the noise issue or only this one?
Best as I can tell only the "High Flow" sensors have the issue. The MPS 100, 200, and 400 are "pressure sensors" and measure flow rate a different way and thus do not have any spinning parts inside to make noise.

The downside to them is that they have to be calibrated and have to have flow profile defined from them if you are using a tubing diameter other than 6mm, 8mm, or 10mm. So for example, if you are using a 3/8" tubing system like I am, that is CLOSE to 10mm, but in reality is 9.525mm, so if I used the stock 10mm definition, it would be off just a bit.
how about 13-19mm tubing?Will it be easy to calibrate?
Best as I can tell, the Aquaero 6 only has profiles set up for 6, 8, and 10mm. Any other diameter has to hand done.

From what I see, it's not that hard to make a profile, you just have to know what the actual flow rate is to calibrate the MPS x00 to. So you could use the "High Flow" and the MPS, make a profile for the MPS, then remove the "High Flow".

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "'47 Knucklehead" (Dec 30th 2013, 2:11am)

Theotorm

Newbie

Saturday, January 9th 2021, 10:33pm

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tutti questi misuratori di portata da aqua hanno il problema del rumore o solo questo?
Per quanto posso dire, solo i sensori "High Flow" hanno il problema. Gli MPS 100, 200 e 400 sono "sensori di pressione" e misurano la portata in modo diverso e quindi non hanno parti rotanti all'interno che producano rumore.

Lo svantaggio è che devono essere calibrati e devono avere un profilo di flusso definito da essi se si utilizza un diametro del tubo diverso da 6 mm, 8 mm o 10 mm. Quindi, ad esempio, se stai usando un sistema di tubi da 3/8 "come me, che è VICINO a 10 mm, ma in realtà è 9,525 mm, quindi se usassi la definizione di 10 mm di serie, sarebbe un po 'fuori .
che ne dici di tubi da 13-19 mm? Sarà facile calibrare?
Per quanto posso dire, l'Aquaero 6 ha solo profili impostati per 6, 8 e 10 mm. Qualsiasi altro diametro deve essere fatto a mano.

Da quello che vedo, non è così difficile fare un profilo, devi solo sapere qual è la portata effettiva per calibrare l'MPS x00. Quindi è possibile utilizzare "High Flow" e MPS, creare un profilo per MPS, quindi rimuovere "High Flow".
Ciao! Ho anche lo stesso problema con il ticchettio. Cosa intendi calibrare il sensore di flusso? posso fare qualcosa senza smontarlo? calcola che ho la velocità massima della pompa (not acqua hero) in tubi 10/16. grazie mille

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Theotorm" (Jan 9th 2021, 10:35pm)

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