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slame

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mercredi 10 mars 2010, 16:38

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Have you watched my video how i deassemble an aquaduct ? There you can see the floorplate open. Don´t remember the exact flow. Would have to see myself.

www.youtube.com/modmymachine and check my aquaduct copper vid

http://www.youtube.com/modmymachine
http://www.twitch.tv/modmymachine

Kyle XY

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mercredi 10 mars 2010, 22:50

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Hey ! You are the guy on these videos ?!
You make excellent tutorials and the last one I saw was the 5870 waterblock installation, tutorial that I followed with my own Aquagratix. :thumbsup:

The video with the Aquaduct was quite fast but I saw that the floorplate has two sides for the water flow. It seems more clear. Am I wrong or on your video you made only electrical connections for the fans and their LED ? You installed the radiator but I didn't see you with tubing to be connected to it. :?:

slame

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jeudi 11 mars 2010, 21:41

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Yeah thats me ...

thx for watching my vids. I´ll try to give you the flow on the weekend.

Cheers

slame

http://www.youtube.com/modmymachine
http://www.twitch.tv/modmymachine

Kyle XY

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samedi 13 mars 2010, 16:34

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Cool ! Thank you !

Kyle XY

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mardi 23 mars 2010, 19:32

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Citation de "slame"

Yeah thats me ...

thx for watching my vids. I´ll try to give you the flow on the weekend.

Cheers

slame

Hello Slame,

What are the news ?

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Kyle XY

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mercredi 7 avril 2010, 06:41

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Hello Slame,

What are the news ?

Kyle XY

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jeudi 22 avril 2010, 22:31

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Dear members of the forum, let me tell you I am angry about the Aquaduct product ! It makes me think it is a rip-off.

The question I told about the Aquaduct internal system had a purpose : how to understand why I seemed observing that the temperature of the air flow doesn't change passing through the radiator, no matter how hot is the water.

I tested it with only the Aquaduct running (the additional radiator I put in the circuitry was then no longer provided with fresh air). The water temperature increased, reaching 33°C, the fans of the Aquaduct automatically increased until 100% but... with the temperature of the inlet and outlet air stable at room temperature (around 20°C). The temperature was measured by the internal sensors of the Aquaduct and also with my own multimeter. It confirmed my own perception by hand, no warming of the air through the radiator.

I put on the radiators the fans of my additional radiator and... what a surprise to feel clearly the air warming through this additional radiator and the fast decrease of water temperature, without action of the Aquaduct.

So, tell me, what happens with your product ? How can you explain that the Aquaduct seems to be only a decorative object, an excellent light effect red/blue, funny upper waterflow through Plexiglas window but with a system fans/radiator without efficiency ??

What are your advice ? Could you propose me the warranty and the exchange with a new product ? Thanks for your answers !!

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Kyle XY

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vendredi 23 avril 2010, 21:51

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Hello everybody,

I have sent a request to the support team, I hope having more details about RMA.

Do you think that the radiator would have been forgotten and kept unplugged on the water circuit ? And... do you think possible that all Aquaduct models are concerned ?? It seems incredible !

What are the experience of other owners of Aquaduc ?

Kyle XY

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samedi 24 avril 2010, 08:10

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PLEASE !! HELP !!

Whatever the adjustments I use (pump speed, fans speed), nothing occured

There's no air warming and no water cooling. However, all the Aquaduct metallic frame is hot. The pump is effective, the water flowing but no cooling. Is somebody here ??

Kyle XY

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samedi 24 avril 2010, 09:52

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Thank you, hobbes_dmS, for having blocked the german topic I wrote on. :huh:

Even if the topic was quite old (3 years), the problem is present and could concern more customers in future, don't you agree ? Anyway. I suppose you will be able to bring a solution to my problem.

I am wandering if the problem wouldn't be the radiator filling itself. In fact, on the photographs, I can see that the radiator connectors are positioned on its lower part. Then if there is a lot of air inside, and also I follow the instructions about filling the right side and carefully tilting the Aquaduct with small angles, a lot of air could'nt be expelled. In such a case, how can we explain that the pump works very fine and no bubble appear though the upper window ?

Very strange, isn't it ?

Les_Conrads

God

samedi 24 avril 2010, 16:20

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Hi

Can you assure, that the temperature sensors are working right? Because, it's technically impossible for the radiator not to transfer heat to the air.
Just make sure, there is water in the aquaduct, and it works... (Btw - it's not possible to get an aquaduct, where the radiator is "not plugged in")

So a) Make sure, there is water in the aquaduct
b) Make sure, there is no AIR in the aquaduct
c) when putting your hand/face in front of the fans - do you feel warm air?

If you still can't get the thing to work, write an eMail! Easyest and fastest way to get official help.

Zitat von »Lev«

ich frag mich ja wann die autoindustrie anfängt en used-look anzubieten

Kyle XY

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samedi 24 avril 2010, 21:17

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I am thankful for your message.

So, for the different subjects you pointed out :

a) Absolutely, there is water. It flows well in the Aquaduct, it is visible on the upper part of the Aquaduct. Otherwise, I would have fried instantaneously my graphic card and my CPU.

b) Mmmh... Maybe there is the problem. I have a doubt about the complete filling of the radiator. I followed the instructions, i.e. filled water on the right hand-side of the Aquaduct (where is the blue ball), switch on the pump, switch off, refill,... until having the water level under 2-3 cm under the top of the Aquaduct in the idle state. But, as I wrote, the radiator connectors are positioned on its lower part. Then if there is a lot of air inside, and I carefully tilted the Aquaduct with small angles with the pump running, a lot of air could'nt be expelled. What do you think ? With a conventional radiator, I tilt it from one side to the other one with large angles (almost upside down) like following. Can I do the same with Aquaduct and the pump running ?

[img]http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxmtd2J[/img]

c) I am sure, the air coming from the radiator as absolutely the same temperature than the air going into it, i.e. the room temperature, even with high water temperature. This air should be quite hot but it is not the case.That's why it's not normal !!

What do you think about this ?

Thanks a lot !

Les_Conrads

God

dimanche 25 avril 2010, 18:47

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You might have a magic product! It is warm, but does not transfer heat to it's colder sourrounding.
As far as I know, you can tilt your aquaduct, as it should be sealed. That way you might get some more air out, if some is still in the system.
BUT! Does your watertemperature really stop at 33°C under full load? That would be quite normal! I cannot really tell if you have a problem or do only expect different behaviour of your Aquaduct.

I don't want to call you a liar, but it seems to be impossible, that the air coming through the radiator stays at the same temperature. It's just strange.

Zitat von »Lev«

ich frag mich ja wann die autoindustrie anfängt en used-look anzubieten

Kyle XY

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dimanche 25 avril 2010, 20:52

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It's OK, my friend, I'm not furious if you are about to call me a liar, given that my situation is very strange

I hope you will bring me the solution and/or why I wouldn't have done the correct operation during the Aquaduct filling. We are both to try to understand what is happening to my Aquaduct. It is the ultimate tool for my watercooling passion, I would be very disappointed if it wasn't at least as efficient as a standard system fan/radiator I would assemble.

So, indeed, I understand, if I have a large amount of air remaining in my radiator, the air inside it must be of the same temperature, you're right. But the air is known to have a very low heat capacity (that's why it's used for thermal insulation). Then, even it takes the same temperature, it cannot take significative amount of heat from water, leading to not heating air passing through the radiator.

By the way, by conduction, all the Aquaduct frame is hot.

About the Aquaduct manipulation, do you confirm me that I can be more direct for tilting my Aquaduct with significantly larger angles ? It was noticed to fill water on the right-hand side. If I tilt the Aquaduct to a position near to the horizonal position temporary, is there a risk for the pump to pump down air, leading to have air everywhere ?

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Les_Conrads

God

mardi 27 avril 2010, 18:48

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Apologies for the long wait...
I have just thought some more and you are obviously right. You can't tilt your aquaduct TOO much. Horizontal might be a problem, as you thought.
But you can tilt it about 70°, I would say... as long as you can make sure, there is water coming to the pump.
Another possibility would be to shake it slightly. You can feel/hear the air and you can see bubbles if there was air.

Zitat von »Lev«

ich frag mich ja wann die autoindustrie anfängt en used-look anzubieten

Kyle XY

Full Member

mardi 27 avril 2010, 22:34

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Hello,

It's OK, I accept your apologise. You know, I have to apologise too for my previous anger and my words which were quite hard. I thank you for your assistance.

Yesterday evening, I tilted the Aquaduct slowly with the pump running. It was carefully several times in horizontal position and for few seconds in the upside-down position, before returning in its vertical position. I was careful about the water level on the right hand side column, the blue balls having not go away too far. It had the wished effect : bubbles were heard and thrown through the watercooling circuit before returning to the Aquaduct, leading to the decrease of level water. During the operation, the pump swallowed air several times but it returned finally in a silent mode. It's difficult to say how much water I added but I think it was about 10-15cl.

Today, I ran the system with a Crysis session, the watercooling only cooled with the Aquaduct (fans of my additional radiator switched off) and the 2 upper fans of 3 activated on the Aquaduct. The water reached 35°C and I could measure that the air flow was warmer passing through the Aquaduct on all points : 22°C => 29°C. And the Aquaduct didn't have to reach its theoretical programmed maximum fan speed !

I'm very satisfied !! :thumbsup:

By the way, to avoid such handlings, could you put the connectors of the radiator at the top of the Aquaduct on further versions ? This way, I think the air will be expelled naturally without effort, tilting with small angles being enough.

Thanks again for your support, Les_Conrads.