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SaiBork

Junior Member

samedi 28 février 2026, 10:44

It won't be backported, that you can be sure of ^^
I agree with Remayz on this one. I have never seen Aquacomputer say yes to anyone who wants to roll back to an earlier version of Aquasuite for whatever reason. Since X.79 there have been 2 firmware updates for the D5 Next and 1 for the Leakshield. If you have either of these devices and you update Aquasuite and the device firmware (which is usually required to work with the Aquasuite update), there is no going back. I have no idea what is going on with the new driver, but I suspect the limited engineering resources Aquacomputer has have been totally focused on getting the Ampinel released.


This has been going since September 2025 already and we're just getting completely ignored though. That's the biggest problem, at least give us some form of update or response.

Remayz

Senior Member

samedi 28 février 2026, 16:40

That's basically what Aquacomputer tells Microsoft for making the signing process so long and broken, on the first message of the thread.
An update would be welcome, but i'm not sure i'd be much different. We'll see.

Speedy-VI

Senior Member

dimanche 1 mars 2026, 06:45

That's basically what Aquacomputer tells Microsoft for making the signing process so long and broken, on the first message of the thread.
An update would be welcome, but i'm not sure i'd be much different. We'll see.
I did some more research on this and Aquacomputer's claim that they are stuck at the verification of their company may be true, but it may also be their own fault.

Microsoft did start using AI in their company verification process, which has caused a spike in "verification loops". Companies like HWINFO and RH Software (SIV) completed their company verification years ago, so they are considered "Trusted" by the Microsoft Partner Center. They can get kernel mode drivers Attestation Signed in minutes. Conversely, Aquacomputer apparently never went through the verification process before for a kernel mode driver, which requires an Extended Validation Certificate and enrollment in the Windows Hardware Developer Program. Their problem is they based Aquasuite's hardware polling around an unsigned kernel mode driver (WinRing0), which started getting flagged as a severe threat by Defender. This gets reported to Microsoft and affects the company's rating in Microsoft Defender SmartScreen and Intelligence Services.

To make matters worse, Aquacomputer then moved the offending WinRing0 code into their Aqua Computer Service, which caused Defender to start flagging the Service. This would change their rating in Microsoft's system from a company using "Legacy/Vulnerable" code to "Obfuscation/Evasion", which is a primary indicator of Malware. Including a Defender Exception (which are reported to Microsoft) in the Aquasuite installer raises their risk rating even higher. When the AI reviews their application, it generates a Risk Exception which requires investigation by a human, and that is what is causing the massive delay in getting the company verified. If Aquacomputer had written their own kernel mode driver and gotten it signed in the beginning rather than using WinRing0, they would not be stuck in this loop. Moving the offending unsigned code into their Service and adding a Defender Exception in their installer just made things worse because the Exceptions are reported to Microsoft every time someone installs Aquasuite and the Defender Exception.

herozero

Newbie

mercredi 4 mars 2026, 16:21

useful message and context from Malik: https://github.com/Rem0o/FanControl.Rele…ment-2713558302

jasnxl

Junior Member

jeudi 12 mars 2026, 00:11

So I purchased the update to the Aquacomputer software and upon installing x.87, I was greeted with the option to workaround this Defender issue. Selected that, and everything was back to normal on my system. Today, I updated to x.88, again selected the Defender option, but upon restart, I'm back to getting the Defender warnings. If there's something I can do on my end to address this, please feel free to let me know.
BTW, the link to the github message regarding this same issue with the popular FanControl software, (which I also run), is that FanControl is now installing PawnIO to work around this issue.
https://pawnio.eu/
Thanks..

SaiBork

Junior Member

vendredi 13 mars 2026, 12:28

So I purchased the update to the Aquacomputer software and upon installing x.87, I was greeted with the option to workaround this Defender issue. Selected that, and everything was back to normal on my system. Today, I updated to x.88, again selected the Defender option, but upon restart, I'm back to getting the Defender warnings. If there's something I can do on my end to address this, please feel free to let me know.
BTW, the link to the github message regarding this same issue with the popular FanControl software, (which I also run), is that FanControl is now installing PawnIO to work around this issue.
https://pawnio.eu/
Thanks..


The work-around is old and no longer actually works. But Aquacomputer doesnt actually seem to care as they havent provided an update in months and are just focusing on selling new stuff only..

sebastian

Administrator

lundi 16 mars 2026, 07:38

Update on driver development:
We can now have our driver signed by Microsoft. A few minor changes still need to be made, and not all tests have been completed yet.
I’m quite confident that we’ll be able to release an Insider build with the new implementation in late March or early April.

Speedy-VI

Senior Member

lundi 16 mars 2026, 18:33

Update on driver development:
We can now have our driver signed by Microsoft. A few minor changes still need to be made, and not all tests have been completed yet.
I’m quite confident that we’ll be able to release an Insider build with the new implementation in late March or early April.
This is Great News!! Thanks for the update.

SaiBork

Junior Member

mardi 17 mars 2026, 18:58

Update on driver development:
We can now have our driver signed by Microsoft. A few minor changes still need to be made, and not all tests have been completed yet.
I’m quite confident that we’ll be able to release an Insider build with the new implementation in late March or early April.
This is Great News!! Thanks for the update.


Thanks for the update! Can't wait for this as I do really like the software itself :D

sebastian

Administrator

mercredi 18 mars 2026, 15:57

Note: The X89 is now available as an Insider build with the new driver for monitoring.

wallegg

Junior Member

mercredi 25 mars 2026, 20:14

thank