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Samstag, 17. Januar 2015, 11:38
Further to mandrix point. I would connect each of the PA's to a USB header to set the unique address (50,51,52 ...) first up and upgrade any firmware.
If you have enough USB headers I would leave the PA's on the USB and also connect them via the Aquabus connection in series. It makes the PA's more manageable. Test it on Aquasuite and you will see why.
I dont have so many header, and even if i would, they would be on the motherboard, and it would be a cable mess.
Its going to be anyways a cable mess as it is, since my build is overkill (just placed an order worth 650euro on ModDiY with different cabling connector an stuff, it is going to take some time cabling and routing all the stuff), and i would want, if it would be possible, to connect everthing through USB header the Aquaaero gets connected to the motherboard.
Montag, 19. Januar 2015, 17:17
Aquabus is ok, you only need to connect the PA´s and MPS´s once on usb to set the Aquabusaddress and Update the firmware.
If the Delta 40mm to much you can combine two of the PWM and connect there Powersupply directly to the power-supply unit.
You can always connect fans to power Supply. But the whole point was to have it wired through AquaAero. Probably im going to have to look for some other fans, as the manual states that if the Amperage draw is more than 3 per Chanell it will shut off.
So the 2-Way Y and 4-Way Y Connection of the Aquabus as drawn will indeed work. Its good to know. Im still trying to figure out how i am going to wire 11 pieces of equipement on USB inside the case.
Montag, 19. Januar 2015, 18:08
You can always connect fans to power Supply. But the whole point was to have it wired through AquaAero. Probably im going to have to look for some other fans, as the manual states that if the Amperage draw is more than 3 per Chanell it will shut off.
No, i mine get the PWM Signal from the AquaAero and 12Volt and Mass from the power Supply, then the only limit is the PWM Signal strength.
Zitat
So the 2-Way Y and 4-Way Y Connection of the Aquabus as drawn will indeed work. Its good to know.
It is a parallelbus, you put all parallel and it is ok, the PA´s are a line but the parallel wire, too.
Montag, 19. Januar 2015, 20:48
You can always connect fans to power Supply. But the whole point was to have it wired through AquaAero. Probably im going to have to look for some other fans, as the manual states that if the Amperage draw is more than 3 per Chanell it will shut off.
No, i mine get the PWM Signal from the AquaAero and 12Volt and Mass from the power Supply, then the only limit is the PWM Signal strength.
So the 2-Way Y and 4-Way Y Connection of the Aquabus as drawn will indeed work. Its good to know.
It is a parallelbus, you put all parallel and it is ok, the PA´s are a line but the parallel wire, too.
Hmmm, i didnt thought of that !!!
Since the fan port on Aquaero 6 are all PWM, one could get away with connecting the power of the Fans to the PSU, and the PWM signal cable to the AquaAero, then it wouldnt draw power through the Fan Port of the AquaAero. Ahahahahaha, then you could connect higher power fans that exceed 3 Amp together directly to the PSU, and only the PWM signal cable to the AquaAero.
OMFG, why coulndt i have though of it in the first place. Now i can use the Delta Fans without a problem and for the last group all 3000 PWM fans, yupiii !
What came up new is that fact that i will be wanting to have all the stuff permanently connected through USB for configuration purposes, and i am now looking up into how i can make a cable with proper usb connector from the 5 port dupont usb pins all the stuff is equipped with. If not im going to be forced to use the NZXT internal USB hub. And in the end i might end up using it, i still need to create one such cable though as i am going to be forced to connect the aquaAero through a normal usb connector on the hub instead of from the header.
6 PA, 2 Flow Meters, 2 Pumps, will make for 5 double pin usb 2.0 headers.
Using 2 x NZXTs i will be getting exactly 5 pin groups free, since one will be used connecting the second hub to the first. Therefore the only way would be to connect the AquaAero to the normal USB connector on the hub.
Or create cables for each device, 11 in total and hook em up to a 12 port USB hub i must place inside.
Still thinking into what i should do.
I do believe using this cable,
http://www.moddiy.com/products/Shielded-…252d-Black.html
and this USB connector
http://www.moddiy.com/products/Gold-Plat…-Connector.html
and a 5 Pin Dupont Housing Connector one could create the required cables one would need to hook everything up to a HUB, would i be right ?
Dienstag, 20. Januar 2015, 22:05
Yes, they are extreme, yes i could reduce them, and the PA, but i allready got six PAs mounted, and i gotta fille em up with something that can proper load them. Besides, i want to hold the GM Titans under load at 25 Degrees.
Thats why its called Project Fill it UP.
The question that remains is whether the 4 smal Delta 40mm fans will be ok on a single Aquaero chanell.
And if the displayed Aquabus Splitting will work as intended. Or should i try to connect them through a USb hub ?
Now I understand what your trying to achieve. I'll subscribe to your build.
Certainly concur with EnigmaG. You may consider a power hub for the Deltas. Although its the noise with the fans at high RPM, assuming they are high thirties in dBA, could be a factor.
Donnerstag, 22. Januar 2015, 13:43
What do you mean by Power Hub ? Which Deltas do you mean !
Regarding the USB Connection to the Computer i think i might have found the solution
Through this adapter:
http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/produc…l-usb3-adapter/
im going to connect two of these:
http://www.hubgear.com/usbg-7u3ml.php
The Hubs will give me in total 14 USB slots, and since i will need 11, i will be left with 3 spare.
The hubs im going to stick with double Adhesive thape inside the case, their thickness is small enough to fit inthe back of the STH10 case.
And maybe i wont even need to power it, if im going to connect only the stuff from AquaComputer to them.
6 for PA, 2 for Pumps, 2 for Flowmeters, 1 for AquaAero.
1 for Bluetooth, 1 for Wireless Headset, and i still got one free just in case.
The only thing that remains is to make my own custom lenght USB cable with USB connector on one side and DUpont 5 pin connector on the other side.
Im ordering the required parts from ModDiY to be able to make my own custom lenght USB cable.
I could have used this one here for more USB slots,
http://www.hubgear.com/usb3-16u1.php
but it is beeing connected through only one USB cable, which means 16 ports thorugh a single usb cable. But i have 2, which means 7 port per cable instead of 16, it might even work without additional power.
Are you sure that BitFenix adapter is useful in your application? It has 2 Female A type connectors for the output and the USBG-7U3ML USB Hub you specified uses a USB Male B type connector for the input.
Have you considered two NZXT IU01 for your USB Hub?
The IU01 supports USB 2.0, not 3.0, but I don't believe any of the items you listed take advantage of USB 3.0.
You would have a total of 16 ports, 12 with the more compact/clean internal 5 pin connectors (1 spare) and 4 of the external A type connectors for Bluetooth & Wireless Headset (2 spare).
The external power is a simple 4 pin Molex pass-through, which you can pick up anywhere in your case... no additional power supply.
The IU01 cost is 20% of the USBG-7U3ML.
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