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How to set pump to shut off

Freitag, 6. September 2013, 16:53

Can someone help me on how i can get my aquastream xt pump or the aquaero 5 to shut off computer if there is no water flow .thanks

Pilo

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Samstag, 7. September 2013, 04:32

You could try to connect the RPM signal from the aquastream to one of the fan terminals on your motherboard...and if the bios of your motherboard can recognise the loss of the RPM signal and also can be set to automatically shut down the computer, then this is one solutioon.
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Samstag, 7. September 2013, 11:57

You could try to connect the RPM signal from the aquastream to one of the fan terminals on your motherboard...and if the bios of your motherboard can recognise the loss of the RPM signal and also can be set to automatically shut down the computer, then this is one solutioon.
ok,will try. what another solution are there.i would like to no them all..lol thanks

Pilo

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Samstag, 7. September 2013, 12:38

You could also emulate the power switch of your computer with the build in relay of the Aquaero. You only need to connect the relay parallel to the power switch with the power switch terminal of the mainboard.
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Montag, 9. September 2013, 03:15

You could also emulate the power switch of your computer with the build in relay of the Aquaero. You only need to connect the relay parallel to the power switch with the power switch terminal of the mainboard.
can u explain that a little better please how do i do this.how would u hook it up?

Dienstag, 10. September 2013, 16:29

so i hook the power switch from mb to the a5 and then run from a5 to mb?

Pilo

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Mittwoch, 11. September 2013, 03:29

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Donnerstag, 19. September 2013, 10:11

Mittwoch, 25. September 2013, 01:53

Humm, maybe I'm a little tired, but I'm not shure that the connections on the image provided by Pillo are correct. The way I see it, the relay should have only the power wire connnnected to, from the motherboard to the pin 1 of the relay and from the pin 3 to the power switch, with the ground wire going directly from the motherbard to the power switch.

Also, another option to shut off the computer is availlable, in the alarm actions you also have the option "Keyboard: Power key", I tested it once, it did shut my computer down, and I do not even have a "power key" on my keyboard.

Good luck!

Pilo

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Mittwoch, 25. September 2013, 05:02

You mean like this?



What will happen if you push the power switch? Nothing, because the relay is open.
What will happen if you toggle the relay to close? Nothing again, because the Power Button, a momentary switch, is still open.
You must link the power switch and the relay together as a parallel circuit.
And the easiest way to do it, is to use the relay connector as basis, because it's a luster terminal with screws. You don't need to solder or anything.

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Donnerstag, 26. September 2013, 12:32

Humm, maybe I'm a little tired, but I'm not shure that the connections on the image provided by Pillo are correct. The way I see it, the relay should have only the power wire connnnected to, from the motherboard to the pin 1 of the relay and from the pin 3 to the power switch, with the ground wire going directly from the motherbard to the power switch.

Also, another option to shut off the computer is availlable, in the alarm actions you also have the option "Keyboard: Power key", I tested it once, it did shut my computer down, and I do not even have a "power key" on my keyboard.

Good luck!
The method Pilo posted earlier is correct. That is how I have my system wired.

I never tried the Keyboard option, but that's good information to know.

Freitag, 27. September 2013, 02:19

I will have to do some testing I guess, because I just cant understand how the relay could be working on the first image, what I mean is that if the relay is really in parallel, how can he shut down the computer by cutting the power off? Even if the relay is off, the power will still be going around the path because both wires are connected together via the relay.

On the second picture of Pilo, if you set your Aquaero to put the relay on "On" by default and set the alarm to put it off, the relay will close the power from going around the path and the computer should shut down. Once this is done the Aquaero should put back the relay on "On" and you should be able to start the computer again by the power switch. No?

But anyway, as I said I will have to test, and if you say that it works, its the only thing that really matters here. :)

Freitag, 27. September 2013, 12:37

I will have to do some testing I guess, because I just cant understand how the relay could be working on the first image, what I mean is that if the relay is really in parallel, how can he shut down the computer by cutting the power off? Even if the relay is off, the power will still be going around the path because both wires are connected together via the relay.

On the second picture of Pilo, if you set your Aquaero to put the relay on "On" by default and set the alarm to put it off, the relay will close the power from going around the path and the computer should shut down. Once this is done the Aquaero should put back the relay on "On" and you should be able to start the computer again by the power switch. No?

But anyway, as I said I will have to test, and if you say that it works, its the only thing that really matters here. :)
I'm no electrical guru, but wiring the relay across the switch and then activating it is the same as holding the power switch in. What happens when you do that? The computer shuts down, right? :thumbup:

BTW you can always test if you have the relay wired correctly by activating it from the outputs menu.

Pilo

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Freitag, 27. September 2013, 17:35

I get it now, you probably have the wrong image in mind.
Both, the computer power button and the relay of the Aquaero are just triggered temporarly to send a short signal to the computer power supply unit to switch on. The power supply unit stays on until it gets another short signal initiated from the power button or the relay of the Aquaero. The power button, or relay doesn't send the signal directly to the power supply unit, it's filtered by the motherboard which is also controlled by the bios and the operating system (Windows, Linux, OS X), otherwise it would not be possible to shutdown the computer automatically in an error case or time triggered via the OS.
Another example:

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Samstag, 28. September 2013, 01:00

Ahhhhhh :) Ok, I was misunderstanding the way the computer switch is working, I though it was a "go or no go" switch, but yes, if it's just a pulse then it will work on parallel, as long as one of the switch or the relay provide it. Thanks for clarifying that Pilo . I'll go to bed a little less stupid tonight :thumbup:

Mittwoch, 2. Oktober 2013, 02:51

i just need to get that relay switch then ,then try to hook it all up ..lol thanks all

Pilo

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Mittwoch, 2. Oktober 2013, 03:03

The relay is already installed on the Aquaero 5 PCB. All you need is the Plug for relay connector, 3 contacts (for aquaero 5 and 6), or an equal item that fits.
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Dienstag, 8. Oktober 2013, 23:15

Hey Pilo Great and helpful replies,

On this picture you put up.
where it says FLOW.

Can i plug my pump into that? or any pump for that matter to have it switch off the computer also if i have the relay installed?

or is it flow is a separate thing. i hope you can read my First post thread cos i need help Thanks Pilo

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Mittwoch, 9. Oktober 2013, 02:54

Flow header on the Aquaero 5 XT is for a flow meter. see this http://hw-lab.com/aquaero-5-xt-review.html/7

Donnerstag, 28. November 2013, 02:53

ok, now i have these things coming which one do i need to turn off my computer with the remote control on the 5xt and what one do i need to have my computer turn off if there is no flow of water or the pump stops working.thanks 2 allAqua Computer Plug 3pin Plug For Relay Output (For Aquaero 5),
Aquacomputer Aquaero Connector 2pol. For Relay Output ,
Aquacomputer Aquaero Power connect - 24pin ATX Standby power / ATX Break