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Aquero 6 XT with 36 fans + 2 D5 pumps

Donnerstag, 14. November 2013, 14:36

Hello,


I'm about to order the Aquero 6 XT, but i was wondering if i need to order any accessoires with it ?

I will be connecting the following products on it :

36 x 120mm PWM fans (http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=p…&model=AK-FN058)
2 x Aqua Computer D5 pump motor with USB and aquabus interface (http://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info…roducts_id=2901)
1 x Flow sensor "high flow" G1/4 for aquaero, aquastream XT ultra and poweradjust (http://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info…roducts_id=2294)
1 x Temperature sensor G1/4 for aquaero, aquastream XT and aquaduct (http://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info…roducts_id=3126)
4 x 15" cold cathodes (could be split into 1 channel if needed)
6 x LED (could be split into 1 channel if needed)

Also, will i be able to controll al the fans with PWM control ? And does anybody know of any 4pin splitter pcb's for the fans ?
And what kind of splitter pcb's are used in this video of the aquero 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPQaMowIrmU) ? are they also 4pin ? if so where can i find them ?


I hope somebody could help me out here, since i'm anxious to complete my build asap.

Donnerstag, 14. November 2013, 17:02

And what kind of splitter pcb's are used in this video of the aquero 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPQaMowIrmU) ? are they also 4pin ? if so where can i find them ?
This is a prototype pcb. You can solder it by yourself.
Also, will i be able to controll al the fans with PWM control ?
This is possible, but the fans have no power rating or maximum current. Without this information you cannot calculate the maximum power consumption.
When you use the aquabus D5 pumps. You can use 9 fans at each fan output.

Donnerstag, 14. November 2013, 18:02

First of, thanks for your prompt reply!
And what kind of splitter pcb's are used in this video of the aquero 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPQaMowIrmU) ? are they also 4pin ? if so where can i find them ?
This is a prototype pcb. You can solder it by yourself.
Is there any way to buy 4 of these of aquacomputer (for the right amount of money offcourse) ? because i have no knowledge of creating my own splitter pcb.
Or do you know of a tutorial to make one yourself ? that way i can have a look to see if i would be capable to make my own.
Also, will i be able to controll al the fans with PWM control ?
This is possible, but the fans have no power rating or maximum current. Without this information you cannot calculate the maximum power consumption.
When you use the aquabus D5 pumps. You can use 9 fans at each fan output.
So if i got 2 pumps connected to the aquabus and the fan channels like below, it should work fine on the aquero 6 xt without the need of any accessoires ?
fan channel 1 : 16 fans,
fan channel 2 : 8 fans
fan channel 3 : 4 fans
fan channel 4 : 8 fans


And what about the lighting, will i be able to connect it to the aquero (like i mentioned in my starting post) aswell with this setup ?

Dieser Beitrag wurde bereits 1 mal editiert, zuletzt von »Harjan« (14. November 2013, 18:21)

Donnerstag, 14. November 2013, 18:34

Is there any way to buy 4 of these of aquacomputer
No.
should work fine on the aquero 6 xt without the need of any accessoires ?
Without the electric specification from the fan we cannot say if your setup will work.

Donnerstag, 14. November 2013, 19:24

According to this review on the Akasa site;
http://tech-reviews.co.uk/reviews/akasa-120mm-apache-fan/3/

the fans use 0.33 amp each

16 of them on a channel is 5.28 amps ... just a little bit excessive for an Aquaero. Even 8 per channel would be pushing the capabilities I believe.
By way of contrast a similar speed corsair SP120 uses 0.08 amp

A build on a scale like this requires a fair bit of knowledge and skill. There aren't just commercial splitter PCB's to accommodate 16 fans because practically no one would buy them. In similar builds people usually create custom wiring harnesses themselves.
In this case if you want to do it you would need to wire each fan direct to the power supply and also run PWM and speed signal wires from each channel of the Aquaero to each bank of fans. That way the Aquaero is not powering the fans and there should be no effective limit.

Dieser Beitrag wurde bereits 1 mal editiert, zuletzt von »Jakusonfire« (14. November 2013, 19:31)

Donnerstag, 14. November 2013, 22:30

Is there any way to buy 4 of these of aquacomputer
No.
should work fine on the aquero 6 xt without the need of any accessoires ?
Without the electric specification from the fan we cannot say if your setup will work.
What about where to buy the blanco PCB's ?


According to this review on the Akasa site;
http://tech-reviews.co.uk/reviews/akasa-120mm-apache-fan/3/

the fans use 0.33 amp each

16 of them on a channel is 5.28 amps ... just a little bit excessive for an Aquaero. Even 8 per channel would be pushing the capabilities I believe.
By way of contrast a similar speed corsair SP120 uses 0.08 amp

A build on a scale like this requires a fair bit of knowledge and skill. There aren't just commercial splitter PCB's to accommodate 16 fans because practically no one would buy them. In similar builds people usually create custom wiring harnesses themselves.
In this case if you want to do it you would need to wire each fan direct to the power supply and also run PWM and speed signal wires from each channel of the Aquaero to each bank of fans. That way the Aquaero is not powering the fans and there should be no effective limit.

What about the corsair SP120 High performance? they run at 0.18 amp x 16 = 2,88 amp, which is still to much for the A6 to handle right ? (and what about when i add a waterblock/heatsink on it ?)
if that is still to much, i might put 12 on that channel (12 x 0.18 = 2,16 amp, so that should be fine right?)

So that way it will be like this :
fan channel 1 : 12 fans,
fan channel 2 : 8 fans
fan channel 3 : 8 fans
fan channel 4 : 8 fans

Also what is the advantage of pwm vs 3-pin on the aquero 6 ?

Dieser Beitrag wurde bereits 1 mal editiert, zuletzt von »Harjan« (15. November 2013, 05:25)

Freitag, 15. November 2013, 07:25

What about where to buy the blanco PCB's ?
Is an normal prototype pc like this:
http://www.thelittlebritishrobotcompany.…t&product_id=75
Also what is the advantage of pwm vs 3-pin on the aquero 6 ?
Normaly you can control the fans with volatge over a better rpm bandwidth.
With voltage control you can slow down the fans more in the most cases.

Freitag, 15. November 2013, 14:15

What about where to buy the blanco PCB's ?
Is an normal prototype pc like this:
http://www.thelittlebritishrobotcompany.…t&product_id=75
Also what is the advantage of pwm vs 3-pin on the aquero 6 ?
Normaly you can control the fans with volatge over a better rpm bandwidth.
With voltage control you can slow down the fans more in the most cases.

Thanks for the link! Now i would only need to find 36 male 4-pin plugs right ?


You mean better control with the PWM fans ?
And you can go to lower RPM's with PWM without the fan to stop spinning right ?

Also is 2,5 amps the absolute max per channel on the Aquero 6 ?
and any clue on when the waterblock for the Aquero 6 will be available?

Dieser Beitrag wurde bereits 4 mal editiert, zuletzt von »Harjan« (15. November 2013, 15:22)

Sonntag, 17. November 2013, 13:37

This might help you out or at least give you an idea of how to proceed with a pwm fan/pump harness.
http://www.swiftech.com/8-WayPWMsplitter.aspx
Like Jakusonfire said, most of us with large builds make our own fan harnesses. This requires buying wire, pins, crimpers, etc and basically learning a new skillset.
If you use non- pwm fans you should be very careful to do the math when hooking up a bunch of fans to one header.....also you will need to physically disable rpm reporting from all but one fan in a group. If all of this is new to you or makes no sense then you should spend some time investigating how to do these things because you won't find out everything here.
Good luck with your build!

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