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The flow rate is the same everywhere in a loop,
So you can arrange High flow next anywhere.
As long as there are no bends within five centimeters of the inlet and outlet.
in addition,
If I were you, I would set up a radiator between the CPU and GPU.
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https://www.au.aquatuning.com/water-cool…?number=1020381
Looks like stock wont be available till late Jan 2022. Can anyone confirm this?
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Did you ever get a final answer about the automatic offset calibration during standby and the fact that the High Flow Next reports a higher temp when there is no flow due to proximity to waste heat producing components? The wording suggests that checking this box would compensate for this additional temperature so it seems that this box should be checked. I am confused.The high flow NEXT temperature sensor doesn't work correctly when there is no flow.
Of course the complete device including the sensor will heat up due the heat of the LEDs, Display, PCB. So you need at least a small flow to measure exactly.
If a flow is applied it's one of the best water temperature sensors available at the market and less influenced by ambient air then many other sensors.
"The high flow NEXT temperature sensor doesn't work correctly when there is no flow."
How does the 'Automatic offset compensation in standby' work?
In the High Flow NEXT manual I see the following"
Zitat
8.7. Power measurement
{snip}
The automatic offset calibration during standby can be activated for improved ac-
curacy. When active, internal and external temperature sensor readings will be
matched during prolonged shutdown of the PC.
My question is, how can the internal and external sensors be 'matched' during standby when the primary (internal) sensor is not reliable at standby (zero flow condition)?
Did you ever get a final answer about the automatic offset calibration during standby and the fact that the High Flow Next reports a higher temp when there is no flow due to proximity to waste heat producing components? The wording suggests that checking this box would compensate for this additional temperature so it seems that this box should be checked. I am confused.The high flow NEXT temperature sensor doesn't work correctly when there is no flow.
Of course the complete device including the sensor will heat up due the heat of the LEDs, Display, PCB. So you need at least a small flow to measure exactly.
If a flow is applied it's one of the best water temperature sensors available at the market and less influenced by ambient air then many other sensors.
"The high flow NEXT temperature sensor doesn't work correctly when there is no flow."
How does the 'Automatic offset compensation in standby' work?
In the High Flow NEXT manual I see the following"
Zitat
8.7. Power measurement
{snip}
The automatic offset calibration during standby can be activated for improved ac-
curacy. When active, internal and external temperature sensor readings will be
matched during prolonged shutdown of the PC.
My question is, how can the internal and external sensors be 'matched' during standby when the primary (internal) sensor is not reliable at standby (zero flow condition)?
Thank you. I did see what Stephan said but I did not see a resolution to the issue. I dug up this post because I am planning a custom loop with a HFN included so I went back through this thread as part of my pre-purchase research. I think the HFN is still the best flow sensor on the market in it's price range, judging from the Igor's lab reviews which found some of the others out there to be wildly inaccurate. The issue of this temp sensor being affected by waste heat when there is no flow is a relatively minor concern.
Yes, Stephan replied in the quote you quoted. He agreed there is a bias induced when the cooling system is inactive. Nothing more was said regarding the calibration function, but the issue is obvious.
I don't know if there is a plan to move the internal temperature sensor on the High Flow NEXT to remove the heat induced bias. Aquacomputer is fairly poor about versioning changes in their gear, so we may never know without another test.
The way I read the text in 8.7 regarding sensor matching, is the HFN waits until the system temperature have stabilized to ambient, and then it would apply an offset to the external sensor to match the much more accurate/reliable internal sensor. The concept is interesting as that makes the Power Dissipated result much better, but as we can see, that does not work under actual condition.
I gathered 4 temperature sensors, compared them, and used the one I believed best reflected the ambient condition, and leave the auto calibrate function deselected.
Thank you. I did see what Stephan said but I did not see a resolution to the issue. I dug up this post because I am planning a custom loop with a HFN included so I went back through this thread as part of my pre-purchase research. I think the HFN is still the best flow sensor on the market in it's price range, judging from the Igor's lab reviews which found some of the others out there to be wildly inaccurate. The issue of this temp sensor being affected by waste heat when there is no flow is a relatively minor concern.
Is there any ETA on when these will be available?
I pre-ordered one from ModMyMods back in September 2021, and over five months later we are still waiting for it to get shipped out..
Is there any ETA on when these will be available?
I pre-ordered one from ModMyMods back in September 2021, and over five months later we are still waiting for it to get shipped out..
This days for delivery in their webshop are always max days it can need in maximum. As a example I had a repalcement beginning of the year and I received my new device with something around 2 weeks (with the webhop status: "currently not in shop" and "days for delivery 60 days").
So, I think you should ask this to your supplier.
I have also dealt with Josh at MMM who has always been super helpful. He told me that they only open up pre-orders if they have a shipment arrival date. Maybe they changed this policy? I bought my first Octo from MMM for $57.50 in March of 2021. More recently, they still had the Octo listed for $57.50 with pre-orders available. Josh told me that they would honor that price if a pre-order was placed before they updated their pricing. I ended up buying a 2nd Octo from PPCs in December of 2021 (because they were actually in stock) but paid $73.95. When I checked MMM again, they had raised their price to $71.25 but have not had any in stock for months. Now the Aquacomputer shop lists the Octo for EUR 74.90. I don't recall what their price was before but based on the US dollar price increase, they went up ~28%. Inflation sucks.I believe MMM buys from a distributer, not direct from Aquacomputer.
I have also used their pre-order option on occasion, but it generally has not turned out successfully. One instance was a High Flow NEXT. After about 2 months I saw they were available on the Aquacomputer web shop and I ordered two and canceled with MMM. Josh did not argue the cancellation. I wish they would only offer pre-order if they know products is on the way.
I have also dealt with Josh at MMM who has always been super helpful. He told me that they only open up pre-orders if they have a shipment arrival date. Maybe they changed this policy? I bought my first Octo from MMM for $57.50 in March of 2021. More recently, they still had the Octo listed for $57.50 with pre-orders available. Josh told me that they would honor that price if a pre-order was placed before they updated their pricing. I ended up buying a 2nd Octo from PPCs in December of 2021 (because they were actually in stock) but paid $73.95. When I checked MMM again, they had raised their price to $71.25 but have not had any in stock for months. Now the Aquacomputer shop lists the Octo for EUR 74.90. I don't recall what their price was before but based on the US dollar price increase, they went up ~28%. Inflation sucks.I believe MMM buys from a distributer, not direct from Aquacomputer.
I have also used their pre-order option on occasion, but it generally has not turned out successfully. One instance was a High Flow NEXT. After about 2 months I saw they were available on the Aquacomputer web shop and I ordered two and canceled with MMM. Josh did not argue the cancellation. I wish they would only offer pre-order if they know products is on the way.
Just checked their website again, and I was incorrect earlier with it being called a "restocking fee".A restocking fee? How can they charge you to restock something that they never sent you? I really doubt they would try to do that.
Just checked their website again, and I was incorrect earlier with it being called a "restocking fee".A restocking fee? How can they charge you to restock something that they never sent you? I really doubt they would try to do that.
The term they use is technically called a "cancellation fee":
https://modmymods.com/aquacomputer-g1-4-…flow-53293.html
But regardless, it's still B.S. IMO since the product is going to sell out anyways regardless of who cancels and who doesn't.
That's nice that you didn't get a cancellation fee when you cancelled.Just checked their website again, and I was incorrect earlier with it being called a "restocking fee".A restocking fee? How can they charge you to restock something that they never sent you? I really doubt they would try to do that.
The term they use is technically called a "cancellation fee":
https://modmymods.com/aquacomputer-g1-4-…flow-53293.html
But regardless, it's still B.S. IMO since the product is going to sell out anyways regardless of who cancels and who doesn't.
I was not charged a cancellation fee when I canceled the High Flow NEXT order.
I believe with the time you have invested, you may not have a cancellation fee, but you may want to wait to cancel until you have an order somewhere else.
I spoke with Josh about the cancellation fee and suggested he do back-orders with a defined shipping date.
Then a 10% fee if canceled during that time, and no fee if after.
MMM are a good bunch, and are generally a few pence cheaper, both in product & shipping compared to PPCs.
PPCs has a product selection few can match, but their webite sucks.
Titan Rigs is the flexing their muscle now. They used to sell exclusively on Amazon and were expensive, but they're going gangbusters with their web shop now,
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