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Mittwoch, 8. September 2021, 16:46
short answer : yes, you can do all that, average your 3 sensors, or take the highest divided by the square root of water flow over CPU frequency averaged.. and i'm not even joking, you can do that too 
you could create a sensor adding the 3 intake temps, dividing by 3 to get the average, add a low pass filter to smooth out fast temperature changes, and substract that to water temp to get a smooth delta T reading.
you could create a sensor adding the 3 intake temps, dividing by 3 to get the average, add a low pass filter to smooth out fast temperature changes, and substract that to water temp to get a smooth delta T reading.
Mittwoch, 8. September 2021, 17:05
Thanks, :0)short answer : yes, you can do all that, average your 3 sensors, or take the highest divided by the square root of water flow over CPU frequency averaged.. and i'm not even joking, you can do that too
you could create a sensor adding the 3 intake temps, dividing by 3 to get the average, add a low pass filter to smooth out fast temperature changes, and substract that to water temp to get a smooth delta T reading.
Not 100% sure how that would all work but not sure I'm even going to have the loop up and running before the end of the year...so...I guess it's a case of crossing that bridge when I come to it.
Also...
Is in front of the intake fan hub a good place for the temp sensor...?...and I have three sensors here (from an old fan controller) which should plug into my Quadro, but they're quite a few years old now (probably over ten years old) and I'm wondering if newer temp sensors might be more accurate, or if I can just stick with the one's I have?
Mittwoch, 8. September 2021, 18:13
calibration may be slightly off between sensors but the reading is accurate enough for PC cooling. but you can calibrate that in aquasuite, keeping all the sensors together and setting the offset so they read all identical., then install them where they have to go.
Now, using 3 sensors for an ambient reading may be a tad overkill. you may end up sticking with just one in the end. The added accuracy may make a difference of a few RPM on fan speed, and pretty much nothing in water temperature
But do it, it's a fun experiment to get used to the Playground, making virtual sensors and you'll see if it makes any difference using one or 3 sensors. See for yourself.
And the fan hub is a small dead zone, little to no airflow there, so, the reading should be somewhat more stable than in front of the blades.
Now, using 3 sensors for an ambient reading may be a tad overkill. you may end up sticking with just one in the end. The added accuracy may make a difference of a few RPM on fan speed, and pretty much nothing in water temperature
But do it, it's a fun experiment to get used to the Playground, making virtual sensors
and you'll see if it makes any difference using one or 3 sensors. See for yourself.And the fan hub is a small dead zone, little to no airflow there, so, the reading should be somewhat more stable than in front of the blades.
Mittwoch, 8. September 2021, 23:24
If you are talking in front of case fans, sure... but in front of radiator fans, be cautious of radiant heat from the radiator biasing the sensor.
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Is in front of the intake fan hub a good place for the temp sensor...?...
temperature sensors are relatively cheap. I would replace 10 year old sensors in case of brittle wire failure, so as to not have to replace.
Zitat
and I have three sensors here (from an old fan controller) which should plug into my Quadro, but they're quite a few years old now (probably over ten years old) and I'm wondering if newer temp sensors might be more accurate, or if I can just stick with the one's I have?
Donnerstag, 9. September 2021, 19:35
Thanks for the heads up...I bought two Lamptron temp sensorsI ran into an issue using a temp sensor not made by Aquacomputer. The problem was not the sensor, it was the 2-pin connector on it. I had a few old Corsair temp sensors that I wanted to use. I tried to connect one. It worked fine and gave me the same reading as the Aquacomputer temp sensor that came with my OCTO, but the 2-pin connector body is a bit thicker than the Aquacomputer #53026 temp sensor. The sensor inputs on the OCTO and QUADRO are very close together. I could only plug the Corsair temp sensor into temp input #1 or #4 because there is room for the thicker connector body. It would not plug into temp sensor inputs #2 or #3 because the 2-pin connector body would hit the adjacent temp sensor input pins.
I have not been able to find Aquacomputer temp sensors (AQ #53026) in the USA. ModMyMods, Performance PCs, and Aquatuning US don't carry them for whatever reason. I ended up getting a bunch of Phobya #82395 temp sensors from ModMyMods. The 2-pin connector is very thin like the Aquacomputer #530256 temp sensor. They also have sleeved cables which is nice. Of note is that the 2-pin connector body is so thin that one of them cracked on me, so you need to be careful when plugging them in. ModMyMods also sells a Phobya 2-pin Extension Cable #82395.
I'm hoping they'll fit the quadro...if not I guess I'll look at the Phobya temp sensors. Thanks for the info.
Edit: If they don't fit, I might try filing them down.
Donnerstag, 9. September 2021, 20:13
Thanks for the heads up...I bought two Lamptron temp sensorsI ran into an issue using a temp sensor not made by Aquacomputer. The problem was not the sensor, it was the 2-pin connector on it. I had a few old Corsair temp sensors that I wanted to use. I tried to connect one. It worked fine and gave me the same reading as the Aquacomputer temp sensor that came with my OCTO, but the 2-pin connector body is a bit thicker than the Aquacomputer #53026 temp sensor. The sensor inputs on the OCTO and QUADRO are very close together. I could only plug the Corsair temp sensor into temp input #1 or #4 because there is room for the thicker connector body. It would not plug into temp sensor inputs #2 or #3 because the 2-pin connector body would hit the adjacent temp sensor input pins.
I have not been able to find Aquacomputer temp sensors (AQ #53026) in the USA. ModMyMods, Performance PCs, and Aquatuning US don't carry them for whatever reason. I ended up getting a bunch of Phobya #82395 temp sensors from ModMyMods. The 2-pin connector is very thin like the Aquacomputer #530256 temp sensor. They also have sleeved cables which is nice. Of note is that the 2-pin connector body is so thin that one of them cracked on me, so you need to be careful when plugging them in. ModMyMods also sells a Phobya 2-pin Extension Cable #82395.
I'm hoping they'll fit the quadro...if not I guess I'll look at the Phobya temp sensors. Thanks for the info.
Edit: If they don't fit, I might try filing them down.
They look like they will fit to me. The Corsair ones have a thicker connector body and key slots on one side. Here is a kind of blurry picture of the Corsair 2-pin connector next to a Phobya 2-pin connector. Corsair vs Phobya Temp Sensor Connectors Not a great pic but you can see how much beefier the Corsair 2-pin connector is. I was disappointed when I realized these would not fit on my OCTO because I have a bunch of them sitting in a drawer. IIRC, Corsair incudes 4 temp sensors when you buy a Commander Pro (because it has 4 temp sensor inputs). It's like the only thing Corsair does better than Aquacomputer. Good luck and please do post if the Lamptron ones fit.
Donnerstag, 9. September 2021, 20:58
Thanks again :0)They look like they will fit to me. The Corsair ones have a thicker connector body and key slots on one side. Here is a kind of blurry picture of the Corsair 2-pin connector next to a Phobya 2-pin connector. Corsair vs Phobya Temp Sensor Connectors Not a great pic but you can see how much beefier the Corsair 2-pin connector is. I was disappointed when I realized these would not fit on my OCTO because I have a bunch of them sitting in a drawer. IIRC, Corsair incudes 4 temp sensors when you buy a Commander Pro (because it has 4 temp sensor inputs). It's like the only thing Corsair does better than Aquacomputer. Good luck and please do post if the Lamptron ones fit.
That's really reassuring; I was thinking the difference in connector size must just have been very slight. The photo gives me more confidence that the Lamptron sensors will fit, and yes I'll post back here to let the forum know if they do or not.
I should be receiving the Quadro along with a High Flow Next from Aquatuning when they get the High Flow Next back in stock; Aquatuning have told me they're expecting stock of the High Flow Next on the 17th September, so they should ship the Quadro etc. out to me around that time and once it reaches me (here in the U.K.) I'll test it out.
...so yeah, probably at the very least a week and a half until I can report back, but I'll be sure to do so.
Donnerstag, 13. Januar 2022, 22:37
Thanks for reporting back that the Lamptron temp sensor 2-pin connector will fit on the Quadro (and Octo).
Corsair is well known for having proprietary connectors on their products. As you can see from the photo I posted earlier, the 2-pin connector they use on their 10k temp sensors is way too thick to plug into the center temp ports on an Octo or Quadro. It's also keyed on one side. The Commander Pro mating receptacle for the temp sensor connector is recessed in the chassis so the pins are protected. They don't stick up above the chassis surface like the Octo and Quadro. That is why the 2-pin connector on the Corsair sensor cable is so much thicker than the Aquacomputer, Dark Side, and Lamptron sensors. All of the connectors on a Commander Pro are recessed and keyed. I guess Corsair felt that they had to make it idiot proof, since idiots tend to buy their products. (Just kidding, sort of, and personally guilty of buying numerous Corsair products before I learned better).
Corsair is well known for having proprietary connectors on their products. As you can see from the photo I posted earlier, the 2-pin connector they use on their 10k temp sensors is way too thick to plug into the center temp ports on an Octo or Quadro. It's also keyed on one side. The Commander Pro mating receptacle for the temp sensor connector is recessed in the chassis so the pins are protected. They don't stick up above the chassis surface like the Octo and Quadro. That is why the 2-pin connector on the Corsair sensor cable is so much thicker than the Aquacomputer, Dark Side, and Lamptron sensors. All of the connectors on a Commander Pro are recessed and keyed. I guess Corsair felt that they had to make it idiot proof, since idiots tend to buy their products. (Just kidding, sort of, and personally guilty of buying numerous Corsair products before I learned better).
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