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(internal) USB connector OCTO (4-pins) doens't stay plugged

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Allubz

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(internal) USB connector OCTO (4-pins) doens't stay plugged

Sonntag, 13. Februar 2022, 18:26

Hi all,
I have a problem with the internal USB connector of the OCTO. The connector simply said sits way too loosely. It tends to fall out if I as much as touch my computer sometimes. If it doesn't just fall out, it will have poor or no connector, resulting in AquaSuite not working. The cable isn't routed tightly at all either. If it finally sits, the stars align, and time freezes, there's a chance it'll stay connected during a longer period.


Why isn't this simply an 8-pin housing with dummies/empties? It would be so much more practical. Also, I would like to see it sleeved, for such a relatively expensive yet simple eletronics part (I dig the OCTO and AquaSuite, don't get me wrong).
Curious how others have solved this, or would go about doing so.Cheers,

Al

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InfoSeeker

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Sonntag, 13. Februar 2022, 20:07

The Picoblade connectors generally secure fairly well.
Be sure the connector is properly oriented, the pins are offset from center.

You mention 4-pin, but the USB connector has 5-pins and should be one of these two CABLES.

Edit: you can easily sleeve using Flexo F6 from Techflex, without disassembly.

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WinstonWoof

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RE: (internal) USB connector OCTO (4-pins) doens't stay plugged

Montag, 14. Februar 2022, 00:08

Zitat von »Allubz«

Hi all,
I have a problem with the internal USB connector of the OCTO. The connector simply said sits way too loosely. It tends to fall out if I as much as touch my computer sometimes. If it doesn't just fall out, it will have poor or no connector, resulting in AquaSuite not working. The cable isn't routed tightly at all either. If it finally sits, the stars align, and time freezes, there's a chance it'll stay connected during a longer period.


Why isn't this simply an 8-pin housing with dummies/empties? It would be so much more practical. Also, I would like to see it sleeved, for such a relatively expensive yet simple eletronics part (I dig the OCTO and AquaSuite, don't get me wrong).
Curious how others have solved this, or would go about doing so.Cheers,

Al


Because if the connector to the USB header on the Mobo was full size)ie double banked) then you couldn't use the other bank of pins on the header for another device


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Remayz

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Montag, 14. Februar 2022, 00:22

for me neither the pin side not the picoblade ever went loose. they both grip the pins pretty tightly.
Maybe it's simply a cable management issue ? It could be that the cable does a tight turn as is often the case in traditional style cases, and stiff as it is, it pulls itself out?
If that's the case i'd simply warm the cable a bit, like, with a hair dryer to give it a bend, and bob's your uncle.
You could also use an internal USB hub to avoid routing the Octo cable to the motherboard if that's an issue.

I use an NZXT hub, (one single cable going to the mobo), which supports an octo, two farbwerk360 and other stuff, none has ever come lose in years

Allubz

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Montag, 14. Februar 2022, 22:29

Hey all,

Thanks for the responses! I didn't expect so many that quickly.To clarify I'm indeed talking about the 1x5-pin (it's not a 4-pin). It sits loosely in this socket, without a tight bend or pull on the cable. It really just... falls out? It does come from under and has to make a 180 turn to go into the motherboard, but that is not a problem for any typical cable. I have now kind of stuck it under some other cables now to pressure it into staying in place, but that's not ideal. I personally would've preferred a 10-pin rather than a 5-pin. I understand the slight advantage of hosting another 5-pin, but honestly I've only seen those in old or prefabbed rigs, and never in parts I used.

Could you hint me on the right Picoblade connector, so I may perhaps find a similar cable with a 10-pin housing?

Alternatively I could indeed setup a USB-hub on the bottom of the system, where the OCTO is as well, but it seems like a lot of cost and effort for what in the end is a wonky connector.

Perhaps if I sleeve it properly it might stay in place better, only marginally so compared to the few loose cables.All in all I'm very satisfied with the OCTO. It was even pretty hard to obtain at that time. It really cleans up the (fan) cable management in the build, and allows for some neat temperature monitoring and fan / pump curving. I am aiming at dropping the connector cable alltogether, because I'd rather see fewer cables in any build. It's just that sometimes I want to crank the system to 100% on all settings, and then the cable will be necessary.

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InfoSeeker

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Dienstag, 15. Februar 2022, 02:28

You may want to inspect the female connector on the USB cable.
There should be two small raised bumps that lock into small windows in male connector (female_pic.jpg)
Female connector (female.jpg)
Male connector (male.jpg)

If the two raised bumps on the cable connector are not there, or wore down, you may need to replace that cable.

Edit:

Zitat

Could you hint me on the right Picoblade connector, so I may perhaps find a similar cable with a 10-pin housing?
Not sure what you mean with that

Edit2: Looking at your comments, I am not sure which end of the USB cable is releasing... the motherboard internal header side or the Picoblade/OCTO side.

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Grestorn

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Dienstag, 15. Februar 2022, 17:56

Zitat von »Allubz«

Hey all,

Thanks for the responses! I didn't expect so many that quickly.To clarify I'm indeed talking about the 1x5-pin (it's not a 4-pin). It sits loosely in this socket, without a tight bend or pull on the cable. It really just... falls out? It does come from under and has to make a 180 turn to go into the motherboard, but that is not a problem for any typical cable. I have now kind of stuck it under some other cables now to pressure it into staying in place, but that's not ideal. I personally would've preferred a 10-pin rather than a 5-pin. I understand the slight advantage of hosting another 5-pin, but honestly I've only seen those in old or prefabbed rigs, and never in parts I used.


I'd try to slightly(!!!!) bend the left and rightmost pin on the mainboard outwards. This should increase the friction and cause the plug to be stuck better. BUT BE VERY CAREFUL! Those pins break easily, so I'm really just talking about maybe a tenth of a millimeter!
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Allubz

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Dienstag, 15. Februar 2022, 21:01

@InfoSeeker Motherboard side. I was thinking of looking for a Picoblade 5-pin 1.25mm to USB 10-pin cable, but that's probably too specialized. Could make it myself, or find a different solution to make the 5-pin grip better. Thanks for providing the part schematic, that's neat. I sometimes buy parts from mouser.com, to make cables fit.

@Grestorn Interesting suggestion! Definitely need to be careful. If it just would keep a tigher grip, it's a great idea. I'll try it soon.

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InfoSeeker

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Dienstag, 15. Februar 2022, 21:35

Zitat von »Allubz«

@InfoSeeker Motherboard side. I was thinking of looking for a Picoblade 5-pin 1.25mm to USB 10-pin cable, but that's probably too specialized. Could make it myself, or find a different solution to make the 5-pin grip better. Thanks for providing the part schematic, that's neat. I sometimes buy parts from mouser.com, to make cables fit.

OK, I was at the wrong end.

One option on the way to a 10-pin connector is to REMOVE THE PINS from the 5-pin connector, and then insert them in a 10-PIN CONNECTOR.

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