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DeDog
Junior Member
I do not want to make a mistake. translations don't help
Donnerstag, 21. März 2024, 20:14
can you help me with the choice of a dual pump cooling system for processor only for the moment.
later I will also get the video card.
I would like to use the D5 pump.
But for now I don't want the pressure safety system.
I only want dual pump support, simple pumps without display, medium enclosure, cpu support and radiator.
I can't figure out what I should take. There are so many models and the translations don't help much. can you guide me so I don't make mistakes?
later I will also get the video card.
I would like to use the D5 pump.
But for now I don't want the pressure safety system.
I only want dual pump support, simple pumps without display, medium enclosure, cpu support and radiator.
I can't figure out what I should take. There are so many models and the translations don't help much. can you guide me so I don't make mistakes?
DeDog
Junior Member
Is this the right minimum?
Donnerstag, 21. März 2024, 20:39
To be comfortable I would like to take this case:Thermaltake Core P8.the two 60 x 480 and 360 mm radiators should fit... one on top and one on the front.
here is the list.
[b]
1 x ULTITOP D5 pump cover for D5 pumps, G1/4
[b]2 x Aqua Computer D5 pump motor with PWM input and speed signal
2 x [b]Decoupling set for pump installations, extra-soft yellow rubber buffers
1 x [b]airplex modularity system 360 mm, copper fins, two circuits, stainless steel side panels
[b]1 x airplex modularity system 480 mm, copper fins, two circuits, stainless steel side panels
1 x [b]cuplex kryos NEXT 1700, copper/copper
[b][b]1 x Filter with stainless steel mesh, ball valves and mounting plate, G1/4
1 x [b]aquabox professional 5 1/4 inch black G1/4
1 x [b]Double Protect Ultra 1l - blue[b]
[b]1 x Hose Aqua Computer 16/10 mm PVC clear
14 x [b]Barrow compression fitting 16/10 mm G1/4, black[/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b]
Am I doing something wrong?
here is the list.
[b]
1 x ULTITOP D5 pump cover for D5 pumps, G1/4
[b]2 x Aqua Computer D5 pump motor with PWM input and speed signal
2 x [b]Decoupling set for pump installations, extra-soft yellow rubber buffers
1 x [b]airplex modularity system 360 mm, copper fins, two circuits, stainless steel side panels
[b]1 x airplex modularity system 480 mm, copper fins, two circuits, stainless steel side panels
1 x [b]cuplex kryos NEXT 1700, copper/copper
[b][b]1 x Filter with stainless steel mesh, ball valves and mounting plate, G1/4
1 x [b]aquabox professional 5 1/4 inch black G1/4
1 x [b]Double Protect Ultra 1l - blue[b]
[b]1 x Hose Aqua Computer 16/10 mm PVC clear
14 x [b]Barrow compression fitting 16/10 mm G1/4, black[/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b][/b]
Am I doing something wrong?
DeDog
Junior Member
Montag, 25. März 2024, 20:44
HI. thank you for the tip. 
I didn't realize that the fundamental piece of the system was missing
I would like to push a latest series i9 but I don't know which pump to use
now use quality air cooling with liquid metal...but in oc the temperatures reach 105 °C (immediately stopped it)
-- In your opinion using two double circuit radiators, one 480 and one 360 and two d5 or better one aquastream ULTIMATE or 2 aquastream ULTIMATE...can I have the CPUs in oc below 85°C? ---
I didn't know it got so hot. I only found out now
I didn't realize that the fundamental piece of the system was missing
I would like to push a latest series i9 but I don't know which pump to use
now use quality air cooling with liquid metal...but in oc the temperatures reach 105 °C (immediately stopped it)-- In your opinion using two double circuit radiators, one 480 and one 360 and two d5 or better one aquastream ULTIMATE or 2 aquastream ULTIMATE...can I have the CPUs in oc below 85°C? ---
I didn't know it got so hot. I only found out now
Methodical
Full Member
Montag, 25. März 2024, 21:05
Check out this video. The CPU was overheating and when he removed the CPU he found the CPU was missing a good amount of thermal paste. Have you checked that? Jayz2cents also have a video out there where he shows the MB was causing high CPU temps by overvolting the CPU. Something worth checking out before throwing money at the problem.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WZz9P3an_SU
In my opinion, there's probably something else going on with your setup causing the high temps that may need to be checked out. Are these normal or gaming temps?
I use 1 pump and a 480mm on the 7950x and the temps max at 90 during Cinebench stress test, but average temp is much lower. The temps average in the 60s during gaming and 40s-50s during regular use. I would use a dual loop if possible and put the CPU and GPU on separate loops.
Just One Man's Opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WZz9P3an_SU
In my opinion, there's probably something else going on with your setup causing the high temps that may need to be checked out. Are these normal or gaming temps?
I use 1 pump and a 480mm on the 7950x and the temps max at 90 during Cinebench stress test, but average temp is much lower. The temps average in the 60s during gaming and 40s-50s during regular use. I would use a dual loop if possible and put the CPU and GPU on separate loops.
Just One Man's Opinion.
HI. thank you for the tip.
I didn't realize that the fundamental piece of the system was missing
I would like to push a latest series i9 but I don't know which pump to use
-- In your opinion using two double circuit radiators, one 480 and one 360 and two d5 or better one aquastream ULTIMATE or 2 aquastream ULTIMATE...can I have the CPUs in oc below 85°C? ---
DeDog
Junior Member
Montag, 25. März 2024, 21:31
I'm using liquid metal without protection around the socket. I did a painstaking job. It took me two or three hours to spread the right layer of liquid metal and not let it leak from the edges but still using the right amount. went away 3 g of metal ...between removing...and putting in
Check out this video. The CPU was overheating and when he removed the CPU he found the CPU was missing a good amount of thermal paste. Have you checked that? Jayz2cents also have a video out there where he shows the MB was causing high CPU temps by overvolting the CPU. Something worth checking out before throwing money at the problem.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WZz9P3an_SU
In my opinion, there's probably something else going on with your setup causing the high temps that may need to be checked out. Are these normal or gaming temps?
I use 1 pump and a 420mm on the 7950x and the temps max at 90 during Cinebench stress test, but average temp is much lower. The temps average in the 60s during gaming and 40s-50s during regular use. I would use a dual loop if possible and put the CPU and GPU on separate loops.
Just One Man's Opinion.
HI. thank you for the tip.
I didn't realize that the fundamental piece of the system was missing
I would like to push a latest series i9 but I don't know which pump to use
-- In your opinion using two double circuit radiators, one 480 and one 360 and two d5 or better one aquastream ULTIMATE or 2 aquastream ULTIMATE...can I have the CPUs in oc below 85°C? ---
Methodical
Full Member
Dienstag, 26. März 2024, 13:19
Are these temps with fans at low rpm and/or during benchmarking tests? I ask because I know some folks goals are to have low rpm fans and low temps.normal temperatures are very low. 40 45°C.
if oc is down...default bios...temperatures under load are 85-90 °C...everything is ok, but I use just over half the power.
It only reaches 105 degrees at maximum overclock and under load with absorption of around 320-330 watts.
I want to understand if the double pump is needed or a single pump is enough to overclock to 330 watts and keep it below a constant under 90 °C
For comparison purposes, I use a single pump and a 560mm radiator on the TUF 4090 OC that pulls 400-500 watts and during hours long 4k gaming the avg temps are in the 50s. I also use a single pump and 480mm radiator on the Rizen 7950x and the temps avg in the 60-70s during gaming and 70s-80s during those high stress test benchmarks. Secondly, I use a single pump (ultitube 150) and 360mm radiator (25mm) with the Rizen 7800x3D and 3080Ti and during long 4k gaming, the temps averages in the 50s for the GPU and CPU (see link below). I can squeeze out about 3* if I push the pumps to 100%, but not worth it for me. Based on this setup, I don't think multiple radiators are required to cool a CPU and GPU combination; it can be done with 1 radiator. I don't know of any stress tests/benchmark or games that pegs the power limits of both the GPU and CPU at the same time (are there any???). Lastly, check out the thread below where the poster had the same issue where his intel CPU temp was high and he found that his water block was the issue. Again, I think there's something going on with the setup that's causing those temps. You may want to ask this question on one of the OC forums because there are people out there with the same CPU having the same issue that can provide their fix. Just One Man's Opinion.
https://www.overclock.net/threads/14900k-at-100c.1809676/post-29311308
See this link that shows my temperatures with the 7800x3D and 3080Ti on a single radiator.
https://www.overclock.net/threads/water-cooling-question-having-brain-freeze.1809741/post-29303474
DeDog
Junior Member
Dienstag, 26. März 2024, 22:25
I noticed a disarming detail.
The acquastream ultimate pump has a maximum coolant temperature of 50 °C, while the D5 on the manufacturer's website has 203 °F which is 95 °C...so if you want to overclock you have to opt for the D5 pump . that's why they created the double pump support... because just one.... certainly can't cool modern Intel CPUs... especially i9.
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_inf…roducts_id=3379
https://www.xylem.com/siteassets/brand/g…e/br-19b-d5.pdf
So the definitive set for cooling an overclocked i9 is the one I posted at the beginning of this hard... with the addition of the missing piece of the D5 double pump body.
The acquastream ultimate pump has a maximum coolant temperature of 50 °C, while the D5 on the manufacturer's website has 203 °F which is 95 °C...so if you want to overclock you have to opt for the D5 pump . that's why they created the double pump support... because just one.... certainly can't cool modern Intel CPUs... especially i9.
https://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_inf…roducts_id=3379
https://www.xylem.com/siteassets/brand/g…e/br-19b-d5.pdf
So the definitive set for cooling an overclocked i9 is the one I posted at the beginning of this hard... with the addition of the missing piece of the D5 double pump body.
DeDog
Junior Member
Dienstag, 26. März 2024, 23:30
to separate the costs it would be better to buy a d5 integrated with a single 480 bi loop radiator
[b]cuplex kryos NEXT 1700, copper/copper[/b]
107,54 EUR107,54 EUR[b][/b][b]Double Protect Ultra 1l - blue[/b]
9,21 EUR9,21 EUR[b][/b][b]Hose Aqua Computer 16/10 mm PVC clear[/b]
4,61 EUR13,83 EUR[b][/b][b]ULTITUBE D5 100 reservoir with D5 PWM pump[/b]
148,55 EUR148,55 EUR
incl. Value added tax IT 22%: 90,99 EUR
[b]Sub-total: 504,58 EUR
[/b]
in my opinion the Barrow compression fitting 16/10 mm G1/4, black connectors are not good, as are the coated brass filters and valves. in my opinion they should be completely made of copper to avoid having long-term problems.
nice this:
https://www.amazon.it/SRJQXH-Filettatura-Connettore-Pneumatico-Controllare/dp/B097QRXYDN/ref=sr_1_146?__mk_it_IT=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=KA6FABR4JA0B&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.aky0ZPRz0zaBC058mntoQaJPsVPfE2TaaiGe-axTWll7snqrLjFeaOe6k5T_W1dxAyVflEr0em5nm1sBxs97stDmW4n4vTV6S9dfVV82iZRoR5iLI5sPZ0Zm1Xduze_0Wl0eKKvg-fCOv9QzJy_veq_MnZPUPK82VCwWTaFdIjX_TDgrU1zZbuH60yllT-moeuDw0qBj2tU7FZrksEen1Z0jkKMA2XC65N7CKChuucXKNY73m7fI4WoDX02xSqNB2pMpXQOZbBj3BLAoz5HQRJlxGaFpWFLlVbNed7zaUFc.ey7BFpJhyt4xQVjIleE3z0VaKwyPlZWArDKTtEjfL4E&dib_tag=se&keywords=valvola%2B1%2F4%2Bin%2Bpvc&qid=1711491440&sprefix=valvola%2B1%2F4%2Bin%2Bpvc%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-146&th=1
https://www.amazon.it/GREDIA-depuratori-connessione-dellacqua-tagliatubi/dp/B09YTXTTD6/ref=sr_1_62?__mk_it_IT=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=KA6FABR4JA0B&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.kPt9QSkj_xLLds7EeG8kKC6fi0J-nkJv6fA2YjCV7xjoYBiKnQk6hVHVkLvzAliAVGPwXHOVrYeFSGPVvG3J32mhAw_h7jd09amLpFOwHutq52PD7YzQW1q3xw35l-8j-PRne6vmKfXvk_l91dAxUUfYjQ-doNGQMAl41dku4WCGStyR1kgvHKDE4HbGtoewLziiTxASAGSSkGdAWwxf4b-o-x3xIOC2je1DQsr4AC8P2Owx-Ks04Jz40Eu8AEmeQLAuUyTuQTRoj-ViErTZmNqi1nvYAPjJf1Eg1tVjThE.pNn_X4Qgnhr6HtW_CLOsU-PXvNpYnxi134TRx-LRBgA&dib_tag=se&keywords=valvola%2B1%2F4%2Bin%2Bpvc&qid=1711491337&sprefix=valvola%2B1%2F4%2Bin%2Bpvc%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-62&th=1
https://www.amazon.it/SUCHUANGUANG-Raccordo-Ingresso-dellalimentatore-CLX220EA/dp/B0CT58QPLF/ref=sr_1_38?__mk_it_IT=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=KA6FABR4JA0B&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.y4xmAXkizEAzK7EbhExLGLwMHLR2IlG_yDsw_hPTrROOQlM7mzlHnyL4Bz3QHy8Q00n_S-R95mwUTgMZl0IsxMg4R7gK-8iYbV6RegV-Q1w4CalOu9JjdagJYo4zRxW_WQtCX-HjQbsjBtKaPG2KiqiCLvASxxcTVYTjkiY2zn_fP3L0q-FzlB1Dge9e_Vneef15N8QW08XR0A3cvXXxviHHYRNJUxRj7DxSpbDeDoowFq1jKWLsDrZB8gimMJ7FpNYtRHCE8aRGwWFr1xUQ_lOl6mDKY9iwnZkzUa8_lIE.97Qf6zTSxrzMuNA5vJ2xHpjkalPjXzYAyrghEHiFe08&dib_tag=se&keywords=valvola+1%2F4+in+pvc&qid=1711491247&sprefix=valvola+1%2F4+in+pvc%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-38
[b]cuplex kryos NEXT 1700, copper/copper[/b]
107,54 EUR107,54 EUR[b][/b][b]Double Protect Ultra 1l - blue[/b]
9,21 EUR9,21 EUR[b][/b][b]Hose Aqua Computer 16/10 mm PVC clear[/b]
4,61 EUR13,83 EUR[b][/b][b]ULTITUBE D5 100 reservoir with D5 PWM pump[/b]
148,55 EUR148,55 EUR
incl. Value added tax IT 22%: 90,99 EUR[b]Sub-total: 504,58 EUR
[/b]
in my opinion the Barrow compression fitting 16/10 mm G1/4, black connectors are not good, as are the coated brass filters and valves. in my opinion they should be completely made of copper to avoid having long-term problems.
nice this:
https://www.amazon.it/SRJQXH-Filettatura-Connettore-Pneumatico-Controllare/dp/B097QRXYDN/ref=sr_1_146?__mk_it_IT=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=KA6FABR4JA0B&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.aky0ZPRz0zaBC058mntoQaJPsVPfE2TaaiGe-axTWll7snqrLjFeaOe6k5T_W1dxAyVflEr0em5nm1sBxs97stDmW4n4vTV6S9dfVV82iZRoR5iLI5sPZ0Zm1Xduze_0Wl0eKKvg-fCOv9QzJy_veq_MnZPUPK82VCwWTaFdIjX_TDgrU1zZbuH60yllT-moeuDw0qBj2tU7FZrksEen1Z0jkKMA2XC65N7CKChuucXKNY73m7fI4WoDX02xSqNB2pMpXQOZbBj3BLAoz5HQRJlxGaFpWFLlVbNed7zaUFc.ey7BFpJhyt4xQVjIleE3z0VaKwyPlZWArDKTtEjfL4E&dib_tag=se&keywords=valvola%2B1%2F4%2Bin%2Bpvc&qid=1711491440&sprefix=valvola%2B1%2F4%2Bin%2Bpvc%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-146&th=1
https://www.amazon.it/GREDIA-depuratori-connessione-dellacqua-tagliatubi/dp/B09YTXTTD6/ref=sr_1_62?__mk_it_IT=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=KA6FABR4JA0B&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.kPt9QSkj_xLLds7EeG8kKC6fi0J-nkJv6fA2YjCV7xjoYBiKnQk6hVHVkLvzAliAVGPwXHOVrYeFSGPVvG3J32mhAw_h7jd09amLpFOwHutq52PD7YzQW1q3xw35l-8j-PRne6vmKfXvk_l91dAxUUfYjQ-doNGQMAl41dku4WCGStyR1kgvHKDE4HbGtoewLziiTxASAGSSkGdAWwxf4b-o-x3xIOC2je1DQsr4AC8P2Owx-Ks04Jz40Eu8AEmeQLAuUyTuQTRoj-ViErTZmNqi1nvYAPjJf1Eg1tVjThE.pNn_X4Qgnhr6HtW_CLOsU-PXvNpYnxi134TRx-LRBgA&dib_tag=se&keywords=valvola%2B1%2F4%2Bin%2Bpvc&qid=1711491337&sprefix=valvola%2B1%2F4%2Bin%2Bpvc%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-62&th=1
https://www.amazon.it/SUCHUANGUANG-Raccordo-Ingresso-dellalimentatore-CLX220EA/dp/B0CT58QPLF/ref=sr_1_38?__mk_it_IT=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&crid=KA6FABR4JA0B&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.y4xmAXkizEAzK7EbhExLGLwMHLR2IlG_yDsw_hPTrROOQlM7mzlHnyL4Bz3QHy8Q00n_S-R95mwUTgMZl0IsxMg4R7gK-8iYbV6RegV-Q1w4CalOu9JjdagJYo4zRxW_WQtCX-HjQbsjBtKaPG2KiqiCLvASxxcTVYTjkiY2zn_fP3L0q-FzlB1Dge9e_Vneef15N8QW08XR0A3cvXXxviHHYRNJUxRj7DxSpbDeDoowFq1jKWLsDrZB8gimMJ7FpNYtRHCE8aRGwWFr1xUQ_lOl6mDKY9iwnZkzUa8_lIE.97Qf6zTSxrzMuNA5vJ2xHpjkalPjXzYAyrghEHiFe08&dib_tag=se&keywords=valvola+1%2F4+in+pvc&qid=1711491247&sprefix=valvola+1%2F4+in+pvc%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-38
DeDog
Junior Member
pay attention to what is around. too soon!
Dienstag, 23. April 2024, 06:50
they're not good. the ones on this site are for other cpu form factorers. not for 14 series. there are only devices certified for the 13 series around....for the 14 series they don't exist yet...only x am5 exist....all the others do not have the 14 gen intel mark.
I found one ... which according to the CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROCESSOR MANUFACTURER'S WEBSITE...INTEL....i9 13th series and i9 14th series, have the same shape, both raptor lake.
So consequently a 13th gen certified tool...should it be good for 14 series?
I asked the seller the same question. you should reply to me today
Once done, I'll put it up for sale... if anyone is interested. I'll tell you how it went and will anyone buy the instrument?
I found one ... which according to the CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROCESSOR MANUFACTURER'S WEBSITE...INTEL....i9 13th series and i9 14th series, have the same shape, both raptor lake.
So consequently a 13th gen certified tool...should it be good for 14 series?
I asked the seller the same question. you should reply to me today
Once done, I'll put it up for sale... if anyone is interested. I'll tell you how it went and will anyone buy the instrument?
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