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May Purchase Hubby7 and 2x Octo, Should I Purchase These Cables?

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spinelli

Junior Member

May Purchase Hubby7 and 2x Octo, Should I Purchase These Cables?

Samstag, 28. September 2024, 00:19

Current Setup:
D5 Next (part of Ultitube 200)
Leakshield
High Flow Next

May Purchase:
Hubby7
2x Octo

Should I purchase any of the following (and, if so, how many)?:
- Connection cable flow sensor for Vision, Octo, Quadro, Farbwerk 360 - AQ-53212
- Connection cable signal header High Flow Next to fan plug - AQ-53294
- Connection cable signal header of High Flow Next to 3-pin miniature connector - AQ-53295


In case anyone is wondering, I'm purchasing 2x Octo because I like being able to monitor fan speeds of all my fans. I like to see if any are failing, not spinning, unplugged, etc. I'd also like the system to be able to run in fully autonomous mode as well as also obviously using AquaSuite when I desire.

Questions:
- If I plug the D5 Next, Leakshield, and High Flow Next into the Hubby7 via each of their own USB cables they come with, will purchasing the other cables be a waste?
- Should I plug the High Flow Next into the D5 Next using cable 53212?
- Should I plug the D5 Next into the Octo using cable 53294?
- Should I plug the D5 Next, Leakshield, and/or, High Flow Next into the Octo/s using cable 53295?

Speedy-VI

Senior Member

Samstag, 28. September 2024, 01:55

I think cable #53212 is for connecting the old High Flow sensor #53068 or the flow sensor with 5.6mm nozzle #53061 into an Octo, Quadro, Farbwerk360, or Vision. High Flow #53068 and flow sensor with 5.6mm nozzle #53061 are both discontinued products so I don't see any use for this cable in your set up.

Cable #53294 can be used to connect the Signal header of the High Flow Next to the Fan/Flow header of the D5 Next. I have this cable installed which, after proper configuration in Aquasuite, sends the High Flow Next flow rate data into the D5 Next which can then use this signal for its Alarm instead of the D5 Next virtual flow sensor. I used this cable because the D5 Next Alarm, if set to monitor flow rate, monitors the D5 Next virtual flow sensor. The D5 Next virtual flow sensor is not very accurate, even after calibration. In my case, the virtual flow sensor would report 0 flow rate when my flow rate was 180l/hr, so the Flow Rate Alarm would trip even though my flow rate was fine. Installing this cable solved this issue.

Cable #53295 can be used to connect the Signal header of the High Flow Next to the Flow header on an Octo, Quadro, Farbwerk360, or Vision. I think if this cable is used, the Octo can use the High Flow Next flow rate data to trip its Alarm which can then shut down the computer via cable #53216 connected to the Octo Signal header with the other end piggy backed on your case power switch header.

You don't really need any of these cables, but it is nice to have options.

spinelli

Junior Member

Samstag, 28. September 2024, 02:09

Zitat von »Speedy-VI«

I think cable #53212 is for connecting the old High Flow sensor #53068 or the flow sensor with 5.6mm nozzle #53061 into an Octo, Quadro, Farbwerk360, or Vision. High Flow #53068 and flow sensor with 5.6mm nozzle #53061 are both discontinued products so I don't see any use for this cable in your set up.

Cable #53294 can be used to connect the Signal header of the High Flow Next to the Fan/Flow header of the D5 Next. I have this cable installed which, after proper configuration in Aquasuite, sends the High Flow Next flow rate data into the D5 Next which can then use this signal for its Alarm instead of the D5 Next virtual flow sensor. I used this cable because the D5 Next Alarm, if set to monitor flow rate, monitors the D5 Next virtual flow sensor. The D5 Next virtual flow sensor is not very accurate, even after calibration. In my case, the virtual flow sensor would report 0 flow rate when my flow rate was 180l/hr, so the Flow Rate Alarm would trip even though my flow rate was fine. Installing this cable solved this issue.

Cable #53295 can be used to connect the Signal header of the High Flow Next to the Flow header on an Octo, Quadro, Farbwerk360, or Vision. I think if this cable is used, the Octo can use the High Flow Next flow rate data to trip its Alarm which can then shut down the computer via cable #53216 connected to the Octo Signal header with the other end piggy backed on your case power switch header.

You don't really need any of these cables, but it is nice to have options.
If I'm not interested in alarms, automatically powering off my PC, and RGB, is there any benefit or difference with using cable #53294 to connect the High Flow Next into the fan header of the D5 Next VS connecting the High Flow Next diectly into the Hubby7's USB?

Same question as above regarding using cable #53295 to connect the signal header of the High Flow Next to the Flow header of the Oct.

Will using either of these cables, or not using them, affect the functionality of the D5 Next, High Flow Next, Leakshield, Hubby7, and/or Octo when attempting to run in "autonomous" mode?

Will using either of these cables, or not using them, affect functionality of the D5 Next, High Flow Next, Leakshield, Hubby7, and/or Octo communicating with eachother via AquaSuite or in terms of certain functions/features (not including alarms and powering off the PC, not interested in that)? In other words, will certain functions/features/abilities be made available or unavailable depending if I have things connected directly to each other (eg. High Flow Next sensor directly to either D5 pump or Octo) VS everything simply connected via USB to the Hubby7?

I believe I can even use cable #53294 to connect the D5 Next directly to the Oct. Again, what is the point of that compared to simply connecting the D5 Next via USB to the Hubby7?

Dieser Beitrag wurde bereits 2 mal editiert, zuletzt von »spinelli« (28. September 2024, 02:22)

Speedy-VI

Senior Member

Samstag, 28. September 2024, 02:52

In short - No. If you connect all of your Aquacomputer devices that have USB connections to your mobo via the mobo USB2.0 headers and/or a Hubby7 you do not need any of these cables. If you choose to activate the D5 Next Flow Rate alarm, depending on how well your D5 Next virtual flow sensor works, you may get false alarms like I did. The D5 Next virtual flow sensor attempts to calculate flow rate based on several parameters. Its not very accurate. The manual even says its really just for detecting a blocked or kinked tube. Since you have a High Flow Next, there is really no reason to activate the D5 Next flow alarm because the High Flow Next has its own flow rate alarm. In my case, the D5 Next virtual flow sensor reports 0 for any flow rate under 180 l/hr. Sven from Aquacomputer told me that sometimes it just does not work at all. I did not need to install cable #53294 in my system but chose to so I could enable the D5 Next Flow Alarm even though I also have a High Flow Next. It was absolutely not necessary., Cable #53294 may be physically able to plug into the D5 Next and the Octo but that is not the purpose of the cable and I don't think it would do anything. None of these cables have anything to do with RGB by the way.

spinelli

Junior Member

Samstag, 28. September 2024, 04:20

Zitat von »Speedy-VI«

In short - No. If you connect all of your Aquacomputer devices that have USB connections to your mobo via the mobo USB2.0 headers and/or a Hubby7 you do not need any of these cables. If you choose to activate the D5 Next Flow Rate alarm, depending on how well your D5 Next virtual flow sensor works, you may get false alarms like I did. The D5 Next virtual flow sensor attempts to calculate flow rate based on several parameters. Its not very accurate. The manual even says its really just for detecting a blocked or kinked tube. Since you have a High Flow Next, there is really no reason to activate the D5 Next flow alarm because the High Flow Next has its own flow rate alarm. In my case, the D5 Next virtual flow sensor reports 0 for any flow rate under 180 l/hr. Sven from Aquacomputer told me that sometimes it just does not work at all. I did not need to install cable #53294 in my system but chose to so I could enable the D5 Next Flow Alarm even though I also have a High Flow Next. It was absolutely not necessary., Cable #53294 may be physically able to plug into the D5 Next and the Octo but that is not the purpose of the cable and I don't think it would do anything. None of these cables have anything to do with RGB by the way.
Great, I probably won't order any of the cables then, just would like to clarify a few things before ordering.

Sorry if this was already answered but what about connecting the D5 Next into the Oco's PWM fan header and the High Flow Next into the Octo's Signal/Flow header? Aside from alarm and shutting down the PC, should I be connecting them that way?

Will NOT connecting the D5 Next into the Octo's PWM header and NOT connecting the High Flow Next into the Octo's Signal header make things not work properly in "autonomous" mode since the Octo may have no way of communicating back & forth with the D5 Next and High Flow Next?

I'm trying to understand how all these devices work in conjunction with one-another. It's easy via AquaSuite since AquaSuite acts as the "brain" for all the devices (D5 Next, Leakshield, High Flow Next, etc.) to work in conjunction with one-another but what about when AquaSuite is disabled and therefore the components are running in "autonomous" mode?

sebastian

Administrator

Samstag, 28. September 2024, 10:38

In general:
Never plug outputs together with other outputs.
Combine an input from one device with an input from another device.

Shoggy

Sven - Admin

Montag, 30. September 2024, 16:47

Zitat von »spinelli«

Sorry if this was already answered but what about connecting the D5 Next into the Oco's PWM fan header and the High Flow Next into the Octo's Signal/Flow header? Aside from alarm and shutting down the PC, should I be connecting them that way?

Will NOT connecting the D5 Next into the Octo's PWM header and NOT connecting the High Flow Next into the Octo's Signal header make things not work properly in "autonomous" mode since the Octo may have no way of communicating back & forth with the D5 Next and High Flow Next?

I'm trying to understand how all these devices work in conjunction with one-another. It's easy via AquaSuite since AquaSuite acts as the "brain" for all the devices (D5 Next, Leakshield, High Flow Next, etc.) to work in conjunction with one-another but what about when AquaSuite is disabled and therefore the components are running in "autonomous" mode?

The D5 NEXT and OCTO can not be connected to each other in any way.

As mentioned before you could use the cable 53294 to connect the signal output of the high flow NEXT sensor to the flow port of OCTO or to the fan port of the D5 NEXT pump which can also serve as a flow port when its configuration has been changed.

Using such a connection might make sense if you connect the sensor to OCTO and also get the cable 53216 in addition. The cable allows OCTO to shutdown the PC in case of a problem like a too high temperature or a too low flow rate if the sensor is directly connected.

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