Aquatube Copper Special Edition

SNTmods

Junior Member

Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2005, 00:21

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I am very interested in getting one of these Special Edition Aquatubes. Is it still available and if so, at what cost? My distributor doesnt have any pricing on it.

-Dan
SNTsystems

Was an early adopter of Aqua-Computer watercooling in the U.S.

Shoggy

Sven - Admin

Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2005, 00:29

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It's isn't available and will not be produced again because there were several problems...
For example: the tool-head(?) broken off several times :-/

damado

Junior Member

Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Montag, 7. Februar 2005, 23:07

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Zitat von »SNTmods«

I am very interested in getting one of these Special Edition Aquatubes. Is it still available and if so, at what cost? My distributor doesnt have any pricing on it.

-Dan
SNTsystems

Is there a link to a picture of this?

Shoggy

Sven - Admin

Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Dienstag, 8. Februar 2005, 00:11

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*click me*

SNTmods

Junior Member

Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Dienstag, 8. Februar 2005, 04:43

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It is very attractive, too bad I wont be able to get one for my next display computer. :p

-Dan

Was an early adopter of Aqua-Computer watercooling in the U.S.

ThaDog

God

Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Mittwoch, 9. Februar 2005, 04:31

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A.. The CopperTube........
My Precious ;D

http://forum.aqua-computer.de/index.php?…&threadID=85668

mfg,

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Top_Nurse

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Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Dienstag, 31. Mai 2005, 10:48

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Zitat von »Shoggy«

It's isn't available and will not be produced again because there were several problems...
For example: the tool-head(?) broken off several times :-/

Please don't shoot me for ressurecting this old thread. :-X

You say the tool head broke off several times? Copper is difficult to machine with normal tools because it tends to be gummy. It takes a certain rake or cutting angle of the tool to work properly. Standard indexable insert technology generally doesn't work well because the material builds up on the tool point and breaks the tool. So if this was the problem then would you be willing to produce this again if the right tooling was available?

x-stars

God

Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Dienstag, 31. Mai 2005, 16:22

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Zitat von »Top_Nurse«

Please don't shoot me for ressurecting this old thread. :-X

You say the tool head broke off several times? Copper is difficult to machine with normal tools because it tends to be gummy. It takes a certain rake or cutting angle of the tool to work properly. Standard indexable insert technology generally doesn't work well because the material builds up on the tool point and breaks the tool. So if this was the problem then would you be willing to produce this again if the right tooling was available?

I don't know if this really was the problem, but how is it, the there aren't problems with the copper while producing Cuplexs/Twinplexs - they're made out of a copper-block, too :

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Top_Nurse

Senior Member

Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Dienstag, 31. Mai 2005, 23:05

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Zitat von »x-stars«

I don't know if this really was the problem, but how is it, the there aren't problems with the copper while producing Cuplexs/Twinplexs - they're made out of a copper-block, too :.

Milling is a different issue due to tool clearance allowing the chips to get out of the way. Turning tools, especially ID boring operations, get tricky because the tool is in the cut continously till the machine moves out of the cut. An end or face mill only cuts a few .001" per tooth and moves in and out of the cut very fast.

Mr_modnaR

Full Member

Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2005, 01:03

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couldn't they cast the basic shape, and then finish it off on the lathe? that way the tool would have to do less work.

Top_Nurse

Senior Member

Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2005, 09:53

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Sounds expensive

Mr_modnaR

Full Member

Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2005, 16:42

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true, but i'm sure they could contract the casting to a professional foundry, and do it as a large batch, thus keeping costs down!

i'm sure there's lot of people who would pay a little extra for one of these Aquatubes!

Infiltraitor

Full Member

Re: Aquatube Copper Special Edition

Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2005, 17:29

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I don't know how pure the 'high purity 99.9%' copper that AC use is but from here-

Pure copper is extremely difficult to cast as well as being prone to surface cracking, porosity problems, and to the formation of internal cavities.

I suspect the casting process alone might push the price of these above what most are prepared to pay, if you factor in the price increase due to the probable amount of failures and reworks due to casting problems, the whole thing is likely to be a non-starter.

Mr_modnaR

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