Zitat von »Shoggy«

Do it the easy way

Where were you last weekend? :'( :'( :'(

Zitat von »boswell«

if only i was shown this a while ago maybe for a future setup...

True, but I do kind of like intricate things so it wasn't a total waste of time. :

Well today I have fitted my HD Aquastream pump into my case. Some had wondered why I bothered to countersink the pump mounts screws and this will become readily apparent now. This first pic is the removed left HD rack. See the two holes just above the 2nd HD rail? I have decided to use a three hole mounting and those two holes will be part of the lower mount. A three hole system allows for easy location as you only have to drill one hole to figure out how to get the FMJ level so you can drill the bottom two holes.







Here is the pic of the mock-up I did a while back. You can see that for the intake of the pump to connect to the Aquatube it needs to be centered where their already is a hole in the HD rack. Those fan gaskets I dyed black are starting to bug me due to them looking red in my pics. Fortunately I located some natural black gaskets so when they come in I will be replacing these. ;D







Here you can see what you would see if you were an Aquatube. The FMJ is placed where the fitting would be centered in the hole.





The HD rails clip onto the HD rack and they stick out slightly where the FMJ will be located. Here you can see the plastic parts I am talking about. The farthest away slot is the one we are talking about here. The one on the far right is sticking out from the HD rack like it normally does. The one to the left of it was cut off with a pair of wire cutters. This does not effect the stability of the HD rails in any way as they are pretty much there simply for easy assembly.










Now we are ready to drill the one top hole. As you can see I miss judged the hole a bit and was forced to use a Dremel tool to relieve the HD rail slightly so the nut would fit properly. I used some more of my 3mm buttonhead screws and was able to locate some black nuts.








Now the FMJ is aligned properly and leveled. Then the two bottom holes are drilled trough the FMJ to match the existing holes.







Here is the opposite side of the FMJ plate without the pump installed.











Here is why I countersunk the Aquastream isolation mount screws. If I hadn't of done that then the screws would have stuck out and the FMJ would not have laid flush with the HD rack.







A side view of the FMJ plate that is bolted to the HD rack. Here you can better see the plastic parts to the right and left that I had to cut under the FMJ plate.







Here is the Aquastream being mounted to the FMJ bottom plate.







The FMJ top is put back on and the HD rack is rebolted back into the case.








And the next few pics show the HD pump in and connected to the Aquatube and radiator.






















Here is with the back case side installed. Once I get the FMJ either black chromed, painted, or covered with black aluminum foil it will essentially disappear if looked upon in the daylight. I really don't want this stuff seen unless the internal case lights are on.












Next up is to mount the CPU/NB pump and I have decided to use another FMJ just for visual uniformity.

Well I was going to add onto my previous post, but it seems there is some kind of limitation to characters or size of post. ???


Well I am kind of at an impasse with deciding how to go about mounting my CPU/NB pump so I thought I would ask for some input. My first mockup was posted a while back, but to refresh your memory here it is.













The other option is this mockup.

















Please keep in mind that the first mockup was before I decided to use a FMJ on the CPU/NB circuit. So the FMJ would be used no matter which way I decide to install the pump. Of course someone may come up with a better idea which is why I'm asking. Also if I were to choose the second option I would have a new PSU mounting plate machined to get rid of the 80mm fan mount/grills.

Zitat von »Ze@lot«

nice work TN. the AS certainly looks better incased in a fmj, and defo in keeping with the black/silver theme that you have going. ;D

as for the CPU/NB pump loop option 1 is a big no no unless you change the tube layout as atm its gonna be a bitch to bleed. option 2 looks ok, but i really like how you mounted the HD loop so could you not mount CPU/NB pump on the other side of the HD rack level with the other pump.

Zitat von »Mr_modnaR«

How about making a plate up that would attach to the 80mm fan holes on the rear of the case, and that way you could have the aquastream sitting just above the PSU with the pressure side poking thru the motherboard/psu partition.

no real advantage doing it this way apart from making the filling/bleeding go a little easier. :-/

ooo! plus you could make the bracket more like a box, which would hide the aquastream even more!

Wait to you see the FMJ encased in the same black aluminum foil I used on my optical drives.

I don't see any problems in bleeding the systems as there are three and I figure they will all have to be done one at a time. So that means the case gets an exercise in contortions. The main issue for me is that while I like mounting the FMJ to the PSU panel I don't want to have to take out my HD circuit if I ever decide to remove the PSU.

Thanks for the idea about making a plate! I was thinking that I could make a small "L" plate that would bolt to the middle floor in the area between the CPU/NB radiator and the back wall of teh case. Then I could mount the FMJ to the plate. This way I can have my cake and eat it too. ;D I can mount it to the plate and thus be able to remove the PSU without affecting the water circuit.

Whoops! This space is reserved for an important update. :

Zitat von »MUFFDIVER«

looks really cool wish i had the patience to do summin that involved. cant wait to see what the outcome will be.

Patience is Golden, but it's also a royal PITA ;D

Seems I forgot to throw in some back shots of my case. Here you can see the back of the Aquatubes and the HD's.














The back of the HD pump circuit.








Now I have done another mockup of my CPU/NB circuit. After listening to all the feedback I decided to try and see if the pump could go on the wall next to the PSU. Here are some shots of what I mocked up. I like it because I don't have to disassemble the Water circuit to remove the PSU and I think it might help with making the PSU wiring easier.








Here you can see where I got a chance to clean up that nut clearance for the PSU ATX wiring loom bushing.




























So now do you go for option 1, 2, or 3?



Added: October 28th, 2005

I have had a few comments about how all this HD cooling was going to work out considering that I am going to be running SATA cables. So I snapped a few pics for your watercooling pleasure. As you can see the SATA ports are easily accessible.









A close up pic.








And a back shot of where the HD return line goes to.

Thanks for all you people who have obviously been around the track a few times for having some fun.

But back to the business of Feeding Frenzy. One of the things about the V-2000 case that I disliked was those oblong holes in the middle case floor that you can see here:














I was able to get rid of one of the oblong holes by inserting an Aquatube and mount where the one on the right normally is. However, I just am perplexed about what to do with that big one that sits right in front of the HD racks. I have been considering having someone weld a slab of aluminum in there and then grind it back down so it looks like it was always solid. That seems quite labor intensive to me and with uncertain results to boot.

The other annoying problem is that the rear PSU plate has those 80mm fan grills machined into the plate. What I need is a PSU opening and the rest of the plate with no holes. This will be so I can mount my CPU/NB pump to that plate and have it looking nice and neat. You can see my problem child here.










So I went up and visited my friends at JCL Company today and inquired about getting some custom Lian-Li parts made. Jack said that the PSU plate was no problem to get, but he would have to get back to me on price and delivery information on obtaining a custom middle floor plate. They are fairly easy to remove from the case as you just need to drill out some rivets. The floor can be either riveted back together or use more screws to hold them together.

I figure other people that read this might want to get in on this deal as not having those oblong holes helps out considerably for us modders. If you are interested then contact Jack at sales@bridgeview.com and tell him your interested in getting what I'm ordering. Have no idea as to price yet, but I really don't care so long as it is reasonable.

Mods Note: JCL has absolutely zero to do with watercooling. They are the major importer of Lian-Li products into the USA and are primarily into wholesale operations. If they did anything else I wouldn't have left the link up.

Okay the semi-final result is in on where the CPU/NB pump is going. Thanks to all who contributed to the discussion. To refresh your memory here is the plate that the pump will be mounted to. I think this is the best from an asthetic and functional point of view. You never know when I might want to add some other AC toy into the open space. ;D









Here is how I mounted the pump/FMJ unit. This is a temporary setup while I wait for the custom PSU panel that is being made by Lian-Li for me. When that part comes in you will see nothing but the four buttonheads and no 80mm grills.









Some pics of the right side of the case which you normally wouldn't see because of the case panel (at least until I get the case panels cut).

















Here is the window side of the case without the radiator in yet.










Here you can see it all hooked up with the radiator fitting through the middle floor.






















These pics show the big view of the pump, radiator, and Aquatube that is on the CPU/NB loop.














Next update:

My next update should be this weekend some time as I will be putting in the MB again in preparation for the wiring. My Aqua Computer Multiswitch, Tubemeter, and TwinPlex Pro's should be here in a few days. I also need to shoot a pic for the A.C. Ryan folks for their case gallery that I have been putting off till I get the MB back in. :-[

The next thing to figure out is how to turn the greenish black FMJ into a thing of beauty. I figure black chrome or a black powder coat. However, the prep is going to be the troublesome part as there are no seams and I will have to have the units welded and ground back down again. Otherwise the black chrome or powdercoat wouldn't look good.

Zitat von »r00t69«

Why don't you do what [ShoNuff] did on Sho Stopper over at bit-tech? He simply placed a piece of Acrylic on the bottom plate. That's what I'm going to do with Pitch Black.

The problem is that I need all the 5 1/4 slots that is available. Putting the plexi in there takes up part of a 5 1/4 slot. :-/ Besides, I really don't want that oblong hole sitting in front of my HD rack. No oblong hole means I could actually move the HD rack forward. ;D

The floor part is the only place I made a boo boo so I can also kill two birds with one stone.