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Have a few very important questions about the Aquaero 6 XT that is holding me back from purchasing.

Tuesday, November 24th 2015, 4:15am

As the title states, I'm being held back by a few things from purchasing the AQ6 XT.

First, I'd like to know if the Koolance Flow Meter Tachometer work with the Flow Header on the back of the AQ6?

(Tachometer RPM 3-pin Header)
[img]http://www.overclockers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=171486&d=1448125264[/img]


(3-pin Flow Header on the back of the AQ6)

[img]http://www.overclockers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=171487&d=1448125264[/img]



My next question is if I can purchase the RTC (Real Time Clock) fit in the back of the AQ6 if the option red heatsink is purchased?

I found this but not sure if different screws were purchased in order to make this work.

[img]http://www.overclockers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=171489&d=1448126790[/img]


[img]http://www.overclockers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=171490&d=1448126842[/img]

Tuesday, November 24th 2015, 4:16am

My other question I have is on the NZXT Hue , can I take the Hue's long LED strip and plug it to AQ6's 4-pin LED via the AQ's LED cable purchased separately?

<img src="http://media.bestofmicro.com/Z/0/365436/original/NZXT-HUE-lights.jpg" alt="wysiwyg image" style="font-size: 12.96px;" />


If not, can I just plug it to the fabwerk? Not even sure if I have anymore USB headers vacant on the MB and already using NZXT extender which is pretty full including a spot for the AQ6.


Also, I'm looking to steer away from modding things and since I'm using the 900D, the LED cable wouldn't be long enough in areas where I would need the LEDs if I were to cut them up per channel for the fabwerk. HOPING the one big strip from NZXT's Hue can just be plugged to the back of the AQ6 XT via 4-pin AQ LED Cable.

I should note, the AQ6 XT will be taking the single bay spot from the NZXT Hue, this is why I hope the it works out.



This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "GTXJackBauer" (Nov 24th 2015, 4:19am)

Tuesday, November 24th 2015, 4:18am

My other question I have, I have 2 MCP-35X pumps in serial and wondering how I should plug these to the AQ6, assuming they work. I'm not sure to plug them into the PWM channel 1 or if I need to buy some 2-pin relays and mod the RPM and PWM wire coming from the pumps to the AQ6. I'm not sure how difficult this could be and worry I could damage my wiring. I will try it though if I get clear instructions how to as I have no clue.

Tuesday, November 24th 2015, 4:20am

This is what I use atm to the CPU PWM Fan Header #1 on my MB.

<img src="https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbNVVbh_39foTkOK-CK4a47te70Wny9m2ZEoppja3kYbi9XOLo" alt="wysiwyg image" style="font-size: 12.96px;" />

(2-pin Relay Connector)

<img src="http://www.aquatuning.us/media/image/d5/f8/d8/70035_1_200x200.jpg" alt="wysiwyg image" style="font-size: 12.96px;" />

Tuesday, November 24th 2015, 4:21am

Hope to hear from a AQ representative or engineer in hopes I can get all of these questions ironed out. The sooner the better which will than allow me to plan ahead and finally purchase. If I can't get it this week because of the savings I'll get, I won't be purchasing these AQ products for a while.

-Thanks




P.S- I'm not spamming because I was going through hell just trying to post this all in one big thread with images to help explain my situation. If a forum admin can kindly put it all together and have the images show, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "GTXJackBauer" (Nov 24th 2015, 4:23am)

Tuesday, November 24th 2015, 10:00am

Hope to clear some Questions.

- The AE6 can be used with the realtime clock an the heatsink

Quoted

Passive heat sink and Real Time Clock module (art. no. 53127) can be installed simultaneously, additional mounting material is included in delivery of the passive heat sink.
AC SHOP


- the LED output at the AE6 is only designed for one RGB LED - to use the NZXT strip you have to use the farbwerk. not sure if you need this adaptor. btw you dont need an extra USB port for the farbwerk

Quoted

aquabus version:
The aquabus version of the farbwerk can be connected to an aquaero 5 or aquaero 6 controller. The aquaero can then be configured to control the outputs of the farbwerk or to transmit sensor data from the aquaero to the farbwerk to be processed by the farbwerk. Up to two farbwerk controllers can be connected to an aquaero 5/6 simultaneously. As a matter of course, this version can also be used as an USB device without aquabus connection.
AC SHOP


- every AE6 output can handle up to 30W - pumps need 18W. But you need to purchase thisconnector to connect the pumps to the AE6.

- the A can handle every 3-Pin flow meter. you need a custom value for the software to work. But im not sure if your product will work because i have no clue if this is only an display or a flowmeter or a combination of these.

If you have more Questionn, just ask
:rolleyes:

Tuesday, November 24th 2015, 7:18pm

Hope to clear some Questions.

- The AE6 can be used with the realtime clock an the heatsink

Quoted

Passive heat sink and Real Time Clock module (art. no. 53127) can be installed simultaneously, additional mounting material is included in delivery of the passive heat sink.
AC SHOP


- the LED output at the AE6 is only designed for one RGB LED - to use the NZXT strip you have to use the farbwerk. not sure if you need this adaptor. btw you dont need an extra USB port for the farbwerk

Quoted

aquabus version:
The aquabus version of the farbwerk can be connected to an aquaero 5 or aquaero 6 controller. The aquaero can then be configured to control the outputs of the farbwerk or to transmit sensor data from the aquaero to the farbwerk to be processed by the farbwerk. Up to two farbwerk controllers can be connected to an aquaero 5/6 simultaneously. As a matter of course, this version can also be used as an USB device without aquabus connection.
AC SHOP


- every AE6 output can handle up to 30W - pumps need 18W. But you need to purchase thisconnector to connect the pumps to the AE6.

- the A can handle every 3-Pin flow meter. you need a custom value for the software to work. But im not sure if your product will work because i have no clue if this is only an display or a flowmeter or a combination of these.

If you have more Questionn, just ask

Ok, thanks on the RTC.

The pumps I use are self powered (MCP-35x) so I know I won't need that cable.

The flow meter is a actual sensor and a display. I'm thinking of using the display with the AQ so I know if the calibrations are on point.


Now lots of questions for the for the fabwerk.

Can the farbwerk in one channel handle 2 meters long with 24 LEDs (NZXT LEDs)?


Its hard finding the right specs for the fabwerk. I don't know how many LEDs it can handle per channel. I saw a AQ Faberk demo where only 12 LED strip (3 IP67 LEDs per 5cm so 20cm in total I think) was used in each of the 4 channels. Is that the max it can handle?

Does the farbwerk come with a Aquabus cable and can I also hook the farbwerk to the Aquabus (high?) on the AQ6 since I won't have enough spaces on my USB ports.

Is the new revision of Fabwerk out (Aquabus + Blootooth) and what color is the LED on the fabwerk so I can match the colors with the AQ6 and are they all the same LED color? (Red or Blue)

Also, is there a Farbwerk Bluetooth for iOS (Iphone)? I only see android.

This post has been edited 14 times, last edit by "GTXJackBauer" (Nov 24th 2015, 10:04pm)

Railgun

Full Member

Tuesday, November 24th 2015, 10:23pm

Re:Farbewerk

Quoted


Comaptible LED strips:
LED strips for 12 V, common anode. Suitable LED strips and connectors are available from Aqua Computer.
Maximum current per channel: 2,5 A
Maximum combined current (all channels): 8 A (resulting in a maximum total power of 96 Watts at 12 Volts)


So long as the strip meets those specs (which are on the product page BTW :) ), you're golden.

Assuming the XT6 you get has a pretty new version of FW, there is no low aquabus port anymore. That said, you can connect it as, IIRC, it comes with one.

LED is blue. I've commented on that in another thread. I'll be changing mine to red at some point with the old poweradjusts I have lying around.

As for the Android thing...

Quoted

Aqua Computer currently supplies a basic Android demo app (compatible with Android 4.4 KitKat or higher) including source code that can be used to set the outputs of the farbwerk. Other mobile operationg systems are not supported!


Though I suppose that's not to say one couldn't develop their own iOS app for the thing.

Shoggy

Sven - Admin

Tuesday, November 24th 2015, 11:41pm

The specifications for the LED outputs are even listed in the article description of the shop:

Quoted

Comaptible LED strips:
LED strips for 12 V, common anode. Suitable LED strips and connectors are available from Aqua Computer.
Maximum current per channel: 2,5 A
Maximum combined current (all channels): 8 A (resulting in a maximum total power of 96 Watts at 12 Volts)

There is no iOS app available because the farbwerk uses a serial communication (nothing special and a common thing) via Bluetooth and since Apple is such a cool company they want to see some money for this. The farbwerk board would require an Apple authentication co-processor... We knew that from the start and decided against it of course.

Wednesday, November 25th 2015, 1:00am

Sorry, I should have worded it better.

I still don't know how much Watts or Amps each strip of LEDs is so I don't know how many LEDS I can put on each channel. Its very confusing because I don't see any information or understand if there is. I need someone to break it down for me. For example, you can only add 12 LEDs @ xx CM long on each channel or w/e.

Can I also use these cables since they aren't AQ certified?

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "GTXJackBauer" (Nov 25th 2015, 1:05am)

Wednesday, November 25th 2015, 5:16am

We can't tell you a number of LEDs per channel because it depends on how much power they use. You need to find out how much power the ones you want to use consume.

Using the ones aquacomp sell you can put roughly 1 & 2/3 meters or about 100 LEDs on each channel. It's right in the specs.
20w per channel available and the LEDs are 14w per meter with 60 LEDs per meter.

This post has been edited 4 times, last edit by "Jakusonfire" (Nov 25th 2015, 5:25am)

Shoggy

Sven - Admin

Wednesday, November 25th 2015, 8:43am

Can I also use these cables since they aren't AQ certified?

We can not promise that they will work trouble-free. I can already see a possible problem on their photo that our cables do better. I don't want to provide further details here for those copycats ;)

Wednesday, November 25th 2015, 10:01am

Can I also use these cables since they aren't AQ certified?

We can not promise that they will work trouble-free. I can already see a possible problem on their photo that our cables do better. I don't want to provide further details here for those copycats ;)


You're being sarcastic right? lol

Wednesday, November 25th 2015, 4:38pm

The pumps I use are self powered (MCP-35x) so I know I won't need that cable.


Then you wont be able to control the speed of the pumps.
:rolleyes:

Wednesday, November 25th 2015, 5:32pm

The pumps I use are self powered (MCP-35x) so I know I won't need that cable.


Then you wont be able to control the speed of the pumps
If you don't mind, can you explain why I need that cable since I really need a PWM signal to control them while they get fed power through their own molex?

Wednesday, November 25th 2015, 10:18pm

Ok, so I spoke with Stefan from Aqua on the phone which was a huge help in answering all my questions.

The only thing I have to figure out is what pulses per liter will the Koolance flow sensor (INS-FM18 ) which is connected to the flow meter and adapter display (DCB-FM01 ) be calibrated too in the Aqua suite. I use 1/2 x 3/4 tubing. I've been reading this thread here which is old and can't figure it out.

Any help in this area will be greatly appreciated.

Thursday, November 26th 2015, 5:14pm

Hello.

Sorry about the statment with the additional cabe; missed that your pumps are pmw controlled.


I tried to wrap my head around your flow problem, thats what i could figue out.

Acc to the specsheet of the flow meter the formula to calculate the impulserate is: LPM = 0.307 x Hz
So the raw Data (coming from the flowmeter) is: 1 liter per minute = 3,25 Hz (Hertz is based per second) - which would be 195 Impulse per liter (you have to extend HZ by 60 to get to minutes)

Source code

1
2
3
1 l/min = 3,25 1/s
1 l/min = 195 1/min
1 l     = 195


Your second device multiplies the 195 Impuls by 10 to get to a value which is roughly 1l/min.
Because a fan has 2 pulses per revolution the value is twice your actual flowrate.

1950 impulse per liter (the value you get out of your adapter display) is to big for the AE6 - maximum is 1000
:rolleyes:

Friday, November 27th 2015, 5:44pm

Hello.

Sorry about the statment with the additional cabe; missed that your pumps are pmw controlled.


I tried to wrap my head around your flow problem, thats what i could figue out.

Acc to the specsheet of the flow meter the formula to calculate the impulserate is: LPM = 0.307 x Hz
So the raw Data (coming from the flowmeter) is: 1 liter per minute = 3,25 Hz (Hertz is based per second) - which would be 195 Impulse per liter (you have to extend HZ by 60 to get to minutes)

Source code

1
2
3
1 l/min = 3,25 1/s
1 l/min = 195 1/min
1 l     = 195


Your second device multiplies the 195 Impuls by 10 to get to a value which is roughly 1l/min.
Because a fan has 2 pulses per revolution the value is twice your actual flowrate.

1950 impulse per liter (the value you get out of your adapter display) is to big for the AE6 - maximum is 1000
Wow, thank you for breaking it down.

So are you saying I can't use the flowmeter + display? Darn. Its possible than I just won't connect the flow meter to the AQ 6 and have the display for that reason. No big deal but would have liked to have it together in the software for monitoring reasons and set perimeters.

barfly

Full Member

why the complication?

Saturday, November 28th 2015, 8:15pm

people that buy the aquaero and farbwerk would seemingly expect the 2 to work together but they dont so setting it up to relay temps is just a guessing game
why is is it made so complicated.its as tho it was purposeful ,i mean why should the average joe have to deal with gradients,low pass filter.timeout value,fallback values,scale,rescale and to top it off
THERES NO DOCS AVAILABLE TO EXPLAIN THINGS
i came from a link commander and light nodes hoping to move up with something better
at least the link was easy to diagnose any arising issues and designed to be usable by the average user.

RE: why the complication?

Saturday, November 28th 2015, 11:41pm

people that buy the aquaero and farbwerk would seemingly expect the 2 to work together but they dont so setting it up to relay temps is just a guessing game
why is is it made so complicated.its as tho it was purposeful ,i mean why should the average joe have to deal with gradients,low pass filter.timeout value,fallback values,scale,rescale and to top it off
THERES NO DOCS AVAILABLE TO EXPLAIN THINGS
i came from a link commander and light nodes hoping to move up with something better
at least the link was easy to diagnose any arising issues and designed to be usable by the average user.

I came from the Corsair "Disaster" or "Elephant in the Room" Link as well. The only thing I will be using from the CL is the actual software to read my PSU readings. That's about it.

I think going with the Aquaero is going to be a great move. Granted there are a lot of specific settings that can be played with but my main thing will be for the basic functionality of it, something that lacked with CL.

I hope the Farbwerk isn't as complicating as the way you make it sound to be. All I know is, you connect the Aquabus from Farbwerk to the High Bus on the AQ 6. From there I believe it will be software settings to be figured out in order for it to work.

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "GTXJackBauer" (Nov 28th 2015, 11:44pm)

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