Need help setting up my devices, I have a Quadro and next flow 2 and I want the setup to use my water temp sensor from flow 2 and the ambient temp sensor from Quadro.

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Need help setting up my devices, I have a Quadro and next flow 2 and I want the setup to use my water temp sensor from flow 2 and the ambient temp sensor from Quadro.

Donnerstag, 31. Oktober 2024, 11:48

What I wanted was to set my fan and pump speeds (that are plugged into my Quadro) to be based of the difference in water temperature (sensor built into the flownext2) and the temperature sensor that is measuring ambient temp (plugged into my Quadro)

I've somehow ended up buying some kind of activation code for my Quadro because I thought I was paying to be able to use the Aqua suite, when setting up my fans there are no options to use sensors from my nextflow2, also the Quadro says I have a side 420 rad when I don't, (I have a side 120), it also says my bottom 360 rad fans aren't spinning at all but they are. The Quadro sensor also says its a water sensor, but i have the sensor measuring ambient room temperature, so how would i change it to say ambient temp rather than water?

sorry i know there are a lot of issues that I have listed. could anyone help me set it up how I create my desired setup using the water temp from my next flow vs the ambient temp of my Quadro. Thanks. There is an imagine in the attachments

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Blacky0618

Full Member

Donnerstag, 31. Oktober 2024, 18:01

Hello SEALWC!

Not sure how far it makes sense to control your fans via difference temperature between Ambient Air and Water - however.Each AquaComputer component that works together with AquaSuite comes with "lifetime license" updates are available for free for at laest six months (see shop description for your device).

You can use your additional licence after expire ;-)The shown name of the sensor is just a naming. If you´re annoyed of this you can rename it.
My System is not working currently so I cannot exactly tell you how (maybe cou can just override the naming).
Maybe you have to go to playground-section @ AquaSuite where you can create a new software sensor - data source should be your temp-sensor.

The softwaresensor in any case can be named however you want and you can use this sensor for control then.I hope that helps you.

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sebastian

Administrator

Donnerstag, 31. Oktober 2024, 18:25

Trying to control a water cooling system like a house makes little sense in my opinion. In other words, regulating to some kind of difference (water<->environment) or similar.
If then only according to the water temperature. Curve 25 °C .. 38°C ==> 10 .. 100% fan power with a progressive increase.

This differential control ensures that the water temperature is lower in absolute terms in winter than in summer.
However, if the higher water temperature is OK in summer, it should also be OK in winter. With the positive effect that the fans run more slowly and the system is quieter.

First set up a controller that ONLY regulates to the current water temperature and then see if you are happy with it. If something is not working, you can make the control as complex as you like.

InfoSeeker

Senior Member

RE: Need help setting up my devices, I have a Quadro and next flow 2 and I want the setup to use my water temp sensor from flow 2 and the ambient temp sensor from Quadro.

Freitag, 1. November 2024, 10:24

Zitat von »SEALWC«

What I wanted was to set my fan and pump speeds (that are plugged into my Quadro) to be based of the difference in water temperature (sensor built into the flownext2) and the temperature sensor that is measuring ambient temp (plugged into my Quadro)

I've somehow ended up buying some kind of activation code for my Quadro because I thought I was paying to be able to use the Aqua suite, when setting up my fans there are no options to use sensors from my nextflow2, also the Quadro says I have a side 420 rad when I don't, (I have a side 120), it also says my bottom 360 rad fans aren't spinning at all but they are. The Quadro sensor also says its a water sensor, but i have the sensor measuring ambient room temperature, so how would i change it to say ambient temp rather than water?

sorry i know there are a lot of issues that I have listed. could anyone help me set it up how I create my desired setup using the water temp from my next flow vs the ambient temp of my Quadro. Thanks. There is an imagine in the attachments .

Hopefully this explains the process of what I think you are trying to do: VIDEO

Remayz

Senior Member

Freitag, 1. November 2024, 14:58

Just rename the sensors to what they represent

To use sensors that are not physically on the Quadro, you need to go to the quadro sensors page and add the NEXT sensors to any of the free software sensor spots of the quadro.
If you do the water-ambient virtual sensor, that's also where you will put it so the quadro can use it on its fan curve.

Zitat von »sebastian«

Trying to control a water cooling system like a house makes little sense in my opinion. In other words, regulating to some kind of difference (water<->environment) or similar.
If then only according to the water temperature. Curve 25 °C .. 38°C ==> 10 .. 100% fan power with a progressive increase.

This differential control ensures that the water temperature is lower in absolute terms in winter than in summer.
However, if the higher water temperature is OK in summer, it should also be OK in winter. With the positive effect that the fans run more slowly and the system is quieter.

First set up a controller that ONLY regulates to the current water temperature and then see if you are happy with it. If something is not working, you can make the control as complex as you like.

Cooling wise it doesn't change much. It's more of a noise thing. Having the fans blasting warm air in summer won't help anyway, so since water temp will vary anyway, might as well not get a noisy PC. All year long, with the same load, it'll be running at the same RPM which is nice. It's more for comfort than cooling really

Speedy-VI

Senior Member

Samstag, 2. November 2024, 18:01

Zitat von »sebastian«

Trying to control a water cooling system like a house makes little sense in my opinion. In other words, regulating to some kind of difference (water<->environment) or similar.

Zitat von »Remayz«

Cooling wise it doesn't change much. It's more of a noise thing. Having the fans blasting warm air in summer won't help anyway, so since water temp will vary anyway, might as well not get a noisy PC.

I prefer using coolant-ambient Delta-T because where I live it gets HOT in the summer and cool in the winter. The ambient temp in my home office can vary by up to 10°C, so my starting coolant temp also varies by up to 10°C. If I control my fans with coolant temp, when I boot the computer the fans will run at high speed for no reason, and they are loud enough to interfere with conference calls. Using coolant-ambient Delta-T ensures that my fans will not ramp up until the coolant temp is higher than ambient temp. My understanding is that no heat exchange will occur between the coolant passing through a radiator and the surrounding air until there is a temperature difference between the coolant and the air. Therefore there is nothing to be gained by running fans at high speed when coolant and ambient temps are equal.

J-MI

Junior Member

Sonntag, 3. November 2024, 02:17

I configured my system following Speedy-VI's advice on Delta-T. It works great.

Speedy-VI

Senior Member

Dienstag, 5. November 2024, 03:32

Zitat von »J-MI«

I configured my system following Speedy-VI's advice on Delta-T. It works great.

Glad to hear everything worked out for you. I guess some people like using Delta-T and some people don't. I have seem some people come up with really complex combinations of sensors in the Playground. The beauty of Aquasuite is that you can, within reason, set things up however you want.

sebastian

Administrator

Dienstag, 5. November 2024, 07:30

Zitat von »Speedy-VI«

I prefer using coolant-ambient Delta-T because where I live it gets HOT in the summer and cool in the winter.

The best thing about it is that if you regulate the water temperature in winter to the same temperature as in summer, your system will be much quieter than with this delta variant.
It simply still makes no sense to regulate normal water cooling systems depending on (ambient temperature - water temperature) if you are working in non-condensing environments.

Take a look at why houses are controlled with an outside temperature + inside temperature sensor. This simply has nothing to do with how water cooling systems are controlled.
It works, but makes no sense, you can simply set a fixed fan speed.

Need help setting up my devices, I have a Quadro and next flow 2 and I want the setup to use my water temp sensor from flow 2 and the ambient temp sensor from Quadro.

Need help setting up my devices, I have a Quadro and next flow 2 and I want the setup to use my water temp sensor from flow 2 and the ambient temp sensor from Quadro.

RE: Need help setting up my devices, I have a Quadro and next flow 2 and I want the setup to use my water temp sensor from flow 2 and the ambient temp sensor from Quadro.

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