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Shoggy
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Re: aquasuite beta: .NET 2.0
Tuesday, January 23rd 2007, 4:22pm
virtualrain, you contradict yourself.
In the second to the last entry you wanted to speed up the fans when the temperature of the CPU is rising, now in your last entry it seems you don't want to do that - because when the water temperature is rsing (no matter why), the CPU's temperature will too
So why should I especially care about the influence of the room temperature when it also affects the water temperature including the CPU temperature.
Let's say my CPU is idle and has 30°C while the room temperature is 20°C. Well, it's summer (in this example *g*), the sun is coming around the corner and is heating the room up to 25°C. If I don't change the fan settings, theoretical the water temperature should also rise by 5°C. Now it's your turn - tell me why I should ignore the room temperature?
Next example concerning the control via the core-temperature. I load a very large Photoshop file with hundrets of layers and it takes ~1 minute. Of course, the CPU is at full load while loading and the core temperature is rising pretty fast. With your "logic" I should start the fans now. I have only one simple question: why?!
In that 60 seconds the water temperature hardly rises so there is no need to start/speed up the fans. Even if I would start/speed up the fans it's impossible to ge any real advantage in that short time.
As said before: with a fan-controlling dependent on the core temperature you will get a permanent up and down of the fans while using the water temperature will only start/speed up the fans when it is really necessary.
I don't know what processor and energy sheme you are using but my core temperature never stays the same (expect 100% idle/load) and moves between ~30-45°C - and that pretty fast when I start or load something here and there.
In the second to the last entry you wanted to speed up the fans when the temperature of the CPU is rising, now in your last entry it seems you don't want to do that - because when the water temperature is rsing (no matter why), the CPU's temperature will too
So why should I especially care about the influence of the room temperature when it also affects the water temperature including the CPU temperature.
Let's say my CPU is idle and has 30°C while the room temperature is 20°C. Well, it's summer (in this example *g*), the sun is coming around the corner and is heating the room up to 25°C. If I don't change the fan settings, theoretical the water temperature should also rise by 5°C. Now it's your turn - tell me why I should ignore the room temperature?
Next example concerning the control via the core-temperature. I load a very large Photoshop file with hundrets of layers and it takes ~1 minute. Of course, the CPU is at full load while loading and the core temperature is rising pretty fast. With your "logic" I should start the fans now. I have only one simple question: why?!
In that 60 seconds the water temperature hardly rises so there is no need to start/speed up the fans. Even if I would start/speed up the fans it's impossible to ge any real advantage in that short time.
As said before: with a fan-controlling dependent on the core temperature you will get a permanent up and down of the fans while using the water temperature will only start/speed up the fans when it is really necessary.
I don't know what processor and energy sheme you are using but my core temperature never stays the same (expect 100% idle/load) and moves between ~30-45°C - and that pretty fast when I start or load something here and there.
drbo
Full Member
Re: aquasuite beta: .NET 2.0
Wednesday, January 24th 2007, 11:48pm
After playing around with the beta (from my laptop), I have a suggestion of adding pump control (Hz) as a function of temperature.
At least to me this seems logical, but I was not able to find this function. I want this function because I am in into WC for silence, and thus wants as low frequency as possible at all time, but at the same time have an automatic increase in water flow when needed.
So what I wish for is a step function of pump frequencies (Hz), with four or five steps - of my choosing ...) regulated by temp readings from one or two temp sensors. :
At least to me this seems logical, but I was not able to find this function. I want this function because I am in into WC for silence, and thus wants as low frequency as possible at all time, but at the same time have an automatic increase in water flow when needed.
So what I wish for is a step function of pump frequencies (Hz), with four or five steps - of my choosing ...) regulated by temp readings from one or two temp sensors. :
Oxize
Junior Member
Re: aquasuite beta: .NET 2.0
Monday, January 29th 2007, 7:58pm
Quoted from "virtualrain"
I respectfully disagree. When the core temperature goes from 30 to 50-deg C you want your fans to ramp up immediately. Core temp's don't fluctuate that much... when the CPU is under load they are high and when its not under load they quickly fall.
Well sorry to correct you. But it does. All new motherboards have buggy onboard sensors. I tested manny tempeture readings with a special Laster Tempeture reader (verry accurate). Didnt saw any good motherboard (MSI, Asus, Abit, Gigabyte, etc) who give some real good info.
After PIII and AMD K7 (amd xp) mobo fabricants made more functions to inside those sensors, and they get only worser.
The only accurate sensors i know were on the Pentium 1/2/3 and K6 mobo's. Good old time
Never trust nowadays on onboard sensors. They are buggy as hell. Even for my own motherboard "Asus M2N32 SLI Deluxe" my core temp fluctuate like a easter egg bunny. ;D
Trust on AC their stuff
or get some expensive temperature readers (laser, sondes, etc)
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