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Is there any integration between aquaero and poweradjust 2?

aquakochan

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Is there any integration between aquaero and poweradjust 2?

Saturday, August 14th 2010, 12:20am

Hi, I think about getting water control system and try to understand smth.

Those new adjust2, may I connect it to AE through the aquabus instead aqua pump?

May I control for example, 2 adjusts2 and aquaero throgh the one common soft and using only one common temp sensor?

Or it'll be one soft for adust1, second for adjust2, and third for AE?

Shoggy

Sven - Admin

Tuesday, August 17th 2010, 12:15pm

Currently it is not possible to control anything of the poweradjust 2 through the aquaero. It might be possible that we will integrate some basic functions but that will be something that will not happen within the next weeks.

aquakochan

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Wednesday, August 18th 2010, 12:09pm

Hi Shoggy, thanks for your answer. May you pls answer a little more? :)

I'm re-designing cooling system. This is gonna be single loop with 2 Laing DDC pumps 10w in serial and 3 rads with 8 fans on them plus 1 fan case. Fans are Gentle Typhoons 1850rpm.
All I want is to adjust pumps and fans speed depending of water temperature. Also I'd like to have a possibility for emergency shutdown in case of low rpm of pumps or fans, low flow, low water level in the reservoir, or high temperature. And it would be great if I could regulate fans speed separatly on each rad and in case, so ideally it should be 2 channel for pumps and 4 channels for fans, with various sensors connected.

May I achieve these goals using aquacomputer hardware?

For example, I may choose 2 Adjusts2 for pumps and aquaero for fans and shutdown.
1) As I see in aquasuite demo, Adjust2 has the possibility to adjust speed according to temperature (btw this part of control is grayed as unavailable, why?), but temperature it reads only from own connector, correct?
2) There is no shutdown option in Adjust2, just alarm. Only Aquaero can do it, correct?
3) In case of using of 2 Adjust2 devices, how software will control them? Will it be one programm in which I will choose one device or another? Or maybe it'll be own programm for each adjust.

So I need temp sensors connected to each Adjust2, and temp sensor and flowmeter connected to Aquaero. As for flow meter, I may try to make a splitter 1-to-3 and use flow meter signal on all
3 devices.Then overall scheme will be as follows below.





4) Will this scheme work good? With such layout all that I lost is only a possibility for shutdown in case of low rpm on pumps, but lack of this functionality will be covered by the flow meter control.

5) And one more question, is it true that PA2 may transfer only 95% of voltage, so my DDC will work at only 11.4v?

Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited 4 times, last edit by "aquakochan" (Aug 18th 2010, 6:16pm)

b0nez

God

Saturday, August 21st 2010, 2:53pm

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1) As I see in aquasuite demo, Adjust2 has the possibility to adjust speed according to temperature (btw this part of control is grayed as unavailable, why?), but temperature it reads only from own connector, correct?


Its a new Feature in the PA2 an only available in the Ultraversion of the Pump.

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2) There is no shutdown option in Adjust2, just alarm. Only Aquaero can do it, correct?


Thats right. And the AE does this job great.

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3) In case of using of 2 Adjust2 devices, how software will control them? Will it be one programm in which I will choose one device or another? Or maybe it'll be own programm for each adjust.


The Aquasuite is the Mainporgram. Every Device is shown in an extra flag. So you will have 4 flags - AE, two PAs and the Tubemeter

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So I need temp sensors connected to each Adjust2, and temp sensor and flowmeter connected to Aquaero.


Thats right. You will need 3 sensors which measure the Watertemp.

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As for flow meter, I may try to make a splitter 1-to-3 and use flow meter signal on all 3 devices.Then overall scheme will be as follows below


Doesn't think that this would work. An on the other hand, i can not see any advantage splitting the signal to all 3 devices.

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4) Will this scheme work good? With such layout all that I lost is only a possibility for shutdown in case of low rpm on pumps, but lack of this functionality will be covered by the flow meter control.


Should work. And if the rpm of your pumps is low the flow rate should be also low. So there should be no difference if you control the flow or the rpm of the pumps.

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5) And one more question, is it true that PA2 may transfer only 95% of voltage, so my DDC will work at only 11.4v?


Afaik this is right. But why do you want the 12V on your Pumps? The Flow rate between 12 and 11.4V should be not a great difference. The only noticeable difference should be the noise.
:rolleyes:

aquakochan

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Saturday, August 21st 2010, 3:33pm

Quoted

The Aquasuite is the Mainporgram. Every Device is shown in an extra flag. So you will have 4 flags - AE, two PAs and the Tubemeter


hm, i can't see this in demo or in manual, this is interesting

may explain more or better would be couple screenshots?



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Doesn't think that this would work. An on the other hand, i can not see any advantage splitting the signal to all 3 devices.


well, it is just for each modele has flowrate displayed, not nessecary though

also i saw in german section that AE may broke with such splits

Source code

 
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Should work. And if the rpm of your pumps is low the flow rate should be also low. So there should be no difference if you control the flow or the rpm of the pumps.


in most case yes, but in case when one pump failed but another works flow rate still will be enough and such error may be discovered not immediatle

as for setting lower flow rate al limit, I don't know how it will work becoz I plan to slow down flow rate in idle also. at least some alarm (PA2 can make alarm, right?) will help here.



Quoted

Afaik this is right. But why do you want the 12V on your Pumps? The Flow rate between 12 and 11.4V should be not a great difference. The only noticeable difference should be the noise.

in case of two pumps yes, it is not very important, but if I would use one pump (or if second pump failed) flow rate will be 1.15gpm at full speed and near 1gpm at 11.4v, and this may quitenoticable



So the general idea - use 3 temp sensors for each device and 1 flowmeter for AE - is best way how I could utilize max features of AC hardware, right?

And last question I have - how hot actually runs, upto 80C? Is it better to put them near the fans maybe?



Thank you!

b0nez

God

Saturday, August 21st 2010, 4:26pm

Quoted

hm, i can't see this in demo or in manual, this is interesting

may explain more or better would be couple screenshots?




Quoted

in most case yes, but in case when one pump failed but another works flow rate still will be enough and such error may be discovered not immediatle as for setting lower flow rate al limit, I don't know how it will work becoz I plan to slow down flow rate in idle also. at least some alarm (PA2 can make alarm, right?) will help here.


As long as one pump still working the flow is enough to cool down all your Hardware and so it isn't necessary to shut down your PC. The PA has its one alarm if there isn't an rpm signal from your Pump.

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in case of two pumps yes, it is not very important, but if I would use one pump (or if second pump failed) flow rate will be 1.15gpm at full speed and near 1gpm at 11.4v, and this may quitenoticable


The minimum flow recommend by AC are 40 l/h (should be around 0.15gpm - my System works with 80l/h and i haven't any problems). Some Tests also shown that there isn't an noticeable temperature difference at a flow rate above 150l/h (about 0.6 gpm)

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So the general idea - use 3 temp sensors for each device and 1 flowmeter for AE - is best way how I could utilize max features of AC hardware, right?


Not 3 Senors (watertemp) for each device - one for each. At the PAs the sensors are to regulate the rpm, at the AE to control the fans on you Radiator.

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And last question I have - how hot actually runs, upto 80C? Is it better to put them near the fans maybe?


The PA has an safety feature which protect the PA from overheating. But it isn't wrong to place the PA near by an Fan.

greets b0nez
:rolleyes:

aquakochan

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Friday, August 27th 2010, 12:32am

Bonez, about those flags - so do you mean that in mainframe aquasuite I will have one window for for aquaero, one window for tube, and 2 windows for PA2?
Also may you explain me alittle about multiswitch -
1) may this device work (i e switch connected its power cosumers) fully autonomously, without OS load, just like AE?
2) may this multiswitch be controoled throuh the AE, so that it switch lights depending of temp or rpm?
Thx :)

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